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| September 23, 2011, 12:42pm |
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I notice they are giving us 6 months supply of biodegradable bags. But no comment on how much they will charge for future supplies.
They are not allowed to. They have a legal duty to provide free waste collection. There are exemptions around bulky items, trade waste, and 'excess', which they are allowed to charge for. |
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| blackdog |
| September 23, 2011, 2:29pm |
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I also thought they had only recently said there were no plans for fortnightly collections, so was this just more lies??
It only takes one meeting to change plans - if this is an effective way to save £1million from the annual Veolia contract, or even half that, then I'm in support. Much better than closing a old folks home. On the other hand it does not reduce the cost of the Veolia contract ... |
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| Nobby |
| September 23, 2011, 2:36pm |
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It only takes one meeting to change plans - if this is an effective way to save £1million from the annual Veolia contract, or even half that, then I'm in support. Much better than closing a old folks home.
On the other hand it does not reduce the cost of the Veolia contract ...
I too am not against it in principle if it saves money. It may take only one meeting to decide, but some time to plan all of this, and therefore we were probably some way thgrough the plans when we were (I believe) told that there were no plans. In that case it was a blatant lie. |
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| September 23, 2011, 2:38pm |
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On the other hand it does not reduce the cost of the Veolia contract ...
.... but keeps 300 staff at WBC employed..... |
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| Muddler |
| September 23, 2011, 4:09pm |
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On the other hand it does not reduce the cost of the Veolia contract ...
...Then it was a pre-planned agreement as part of the Veolia contract and has been known about and kept secret for some time. |
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| brian |
| September 23, 2011, 4:20pm |
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As a smaller household, we have become fortnightly of our own volition, not generating enough to fill a weekly black bin we only put it up when it's green bin as well. However, some of the families living close by fill their black bin to overflowing every week. I am amazed at the way the council have slid this one in under the door and then have given themselves a pat on the back for being green.
This green thing is patently nonsense and the councillors should hang their heads in shame for the way they are conning their ratepayers.
I don't rummage through peoples wheelie bins but I would take a bet that 90% of the rubbish each week is non recyclable packaging, nappies and other junk that we need to throw away each week. Uneaten food, including potato peelings, uneaten stuff scraped off the plate and food past sell by date will be, if separated out, just a small 10%. So, there is no justification other than it's financial and perhaps they have struck a deal with Veolia. If they have, then they should announce it that way.
From our point of view and taking account my extreme age, I now have to contend with working out which colour bin I put up on a Sunday night and if I get it wrong, having the finger of scorn pointed at me by the neighbours. |
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| jay |
| September 23, 2011, 5:59pm |
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I notice they are giving us 6 months supply of biodegradable bags. But no comment on how much they will charge for future supplies.
I also thought they had only recently said there were no plans for fortnightly collections, so was this just more lies??
We haven't received the official announcement yet, but six months worth of bags sounds right. You would only use the food bags during 'green bin week', 'black bin week' the food waste would go in your pedal bin, carrier bag etc as it does now. |
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| Nobby |
| September 23, 2011, 11:11pm |
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We haven't received the official announcement yet, but six months worth of bags sounds right. You would only use the food bags during 'green bin week', 'black bin week' the food waste would go in your pedal bin, carrier bag etc as it does now.
It was on the leaflet delivered when my bin was emptied this week. |
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| Muddler |
| September 24, 2011, 4:36am |
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As a smaller household, we have become fortnightly of our own volition, not generating enough to fill a weekly black bin we only put it up when it's green bin as well. However, some of the families living close by fill their black bin to overflowing every week. I am amazed at the way the council have slid this one in under the door and then have given themselves a pat on the back for being green.
This green thing is patently nonsense and the councillors should hang their heads in shame for the way they are conning their ratepayers.
I don't rummage through peoples wheelie bins but I would take a bet that 90% of the rubbish each week is non recyclable packaging, nappies and other junk that we need to throw away each week. Uneaten food, including potato peelings, uneaten stuff scraped off the plate and food past sell by date will be, if separated out, just a small 10%. So, there is no justification other than it's financial and perhaps they have struck a deal with Veolia. If they have, then they should announce it that way.
From our point of view and taking account my extreme age, I now have to contend with working out which colour bin I put up on a Sunday night and if I get it wrong, having the finger of scorn pointed at me by the neighbours.
But there's a huge justification. You're way out with your calculations. Official figures say 20% of household waste is food. Much of that is uneaten food bought by people who don't know how to shop. Anyone filling a 60L bin every week is either spending like there's no tomorrow (unlikely with the economy as it is). Or they're lazy (their bin is filled with disposable nappies, pizza boxes, carrier bags, and stuff that could be taken to charity shops/freecycled). Half of all houses around here don't do any recycling. Those who do are paying for those who don't. (economists call it the free-rider problem). Judging from comments about benefit mums and chavs, I doubt many on here want to pay for people who are lazy. So they'll end up recycling more, and we can all look forward to £20 off our council tax bill. |
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| brian |
| September 24, 2011, 2:55pm |
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I suspect the recyling bit comes down to a lazy, don't care attitude. On my way to the waste disposal unit just a few ninutes ago, I watched from my pick up, a group of youths crossing the footbridge half way up the hill, eating pizza. They must have just eaten the last piece as without even looking, they threw the empty box off the bridge onto the car below that was queuing to get into the retail park. What a traffic jam by the way.
......and, you can forget a reduction on your council bill, it doesn't work like that as you well know. |
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