Making pedestrians use the subway would not alleviate the problem. The lights would need to change the same as they do now to let traffic out of Kings Road and Wharf Street. ....
No because you would do away with the lights and make it an erm.. roundabout.
What's all this about needing a 'run' at the hill, incidentally?
By a run at the hill, I am suggesting that the HGVs might have to drop a gear but they would not be starting up the hill in first gear because they had to stop at the Burger King roundabout. Less fuel dumped into the engine to overcome the inertia of starting from standstill, no need to use the engine as a brake going round the roundabout and then loads of fuel through the injectors to pick up speed. Diesels are very efficient once they are running at their designed speed but have problems when accelerating under load. To prove this, watch the exhaust and you will see smoke when the load is put on, gradually reducing once the engine is running at operating speed.
I didn't suggest that we do away with any parking other than perhaps some of the spaces on the Halford'd car park.
But, as I said, it will never happen so all the delegates who are suggesting making cycling more attractive, putting in park and ride so that we have buses instead of comparitively clean cars and such other silly suggestions tells me that the council have got together a load of amateurs, all controlled by expensive consultants telling the delegates where to stick their post it notes, were just a blind to get WBC off the hook. They, the council, can then refer to all the silly low impact solutions and say "Well, we tried by getting the team to provide answers. " Obligation over, no further action required.
I'll just make one further unpopular suggestion, get VOSA to pull over vehicles for roadside emissions check. It will cause a lot of tailbacks but it would make the lorry drivers think twice about cutting through the A339 when they could have gone down the bypass. It would also help to determine which transport companies are using the route and perhaps a word in their ear about emissions delays etc might help.
In real terms though, there was a lot about what noxious fumes were around in the area but unless I missed it, no positive proof as to where it was coming from. Maybe all the problems are because Mrs Whatsits boiler isn't working properly.
I'll just make one further unpopular suggestion, get VOSA to pull over vehicles for roadside emissions check. It will cause a lot of tailbacks but it would make the lorry drivers think twice about cutting through the A339 when they could have gone down the bypass. It would also help to determine which transport companies are using the route and perhaps a word in their ear about emissions delays etc might help.
In real terms though, there was a lot about what noxious fumes were around in the area but unless I missed it, no positive proof as to where it was coming from. Maybe all the problems are because Mrs Whatsits boiler isn't working properly.
How about a simple weight limit with hefty fines for those not complying, & a couple of strategically placed WORKING cameras with exemptions for local deliveries. Or is that to simple !!
How about a simple weight limit with hefty fines for those not complying, & a couple of strategically placed WORKING cameras with exemptions for local deliveries. Or is that to simple !!
I don't think that is possible as it an A road and weight restrictions are not usually possible.
How about a simple weight limit with hefty fines for those not complying, & a couple of strategically placed WORKING cameras with exemptions for local deliveries. Or is that to simple !!
Impossible to enforce with lorries making deliveries to town centre stores. They have the same problem o nthe B4000. A man got run over in Stockcross by a lorry there that had come off the M4 at J14, and the depot was in Thatcham.
Impossible to enforce with lorries making deliveries to town centre stores. They have the same problem o nthe B4000. A man got run over in Stockcross by a lorry there that had come off the M4 at J14, and the depot was in Thatcham.
My memory is hazy, but wasn't there a successful ban on Hgvs through Beedon? I'm not saying it would be possible in Newbury, but surely it would work for Stockcross.
Impossible to enforce with lorries making deliveries to town centre stores. They have the same problem o nthe B4000. A man got run over in Stockcross by a lorry there that had come off the M4 at J14, and the depot was in Thatcham.
Perhaps he had been advised that there were queues on the M4 at Junction 13 and was doing his best to get back to the depot on time. Who knows, but I can't really believe that the back roads are an M4 shortcut as he still has to negotiate the Robin Hood.
How about a simple weight limit with hefty fines for those not complying, & a couple of strategically placed WORKING cameras with exemptions for local deliveries. Or is that to simple !!
FAR too simplistic. In the real world there isn't a magic wand to wave around.... Who'd manage and administer it? (In a time when they're getting rid of WBC staff) Where would the initial outlay for the infrastructure (cameras/linked software to the office/VNPR technology) come from? (I doubt the Road Haulage Association would stump up cash to support the cause). A roads are distributor routes and are designed to take HGV traffic. Can you imagine how many HGVs would legitimately be able to argue that they need to use the route and so would be exempt from prosecution (arguing the toss with haulage companies as to why their vehicles were on the 'banned road' would be endless) So many local houses and businesses to deliver to and pick up from.
And you'd find that HGV drivers can be quite inventive when looking for ways to avoid bans, so might use back roads which are worse than allowing them to stay on the A road.
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My memory is hazy, but wasn't there a successful ban on Hgvs through Beedon? I'm not saying it would be possible in Newbury, but surely it would work for Stockcross.
There's already a 7.5t ban on the B4000 through Stockcross. Not entirely successful as (for the reasons above) although there is a 7.5t ban, there are normally 'except for access' exemptions. Any HGV driver worth his salt knows that the definition of the term 'access' can be wooly. "Well, officer.. I might not be delivering anything in the area but I needed to 'access' the B4000 because I'm looking for a Post Office to buy some stamps/shop for some fags/a safe area to park up as my tacho is full..." http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?.....bp=12,310.77,,1,4.85
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