I was rubbished when I suggested that Parkway had built the John Lewis at home building without planning, and people on here told me it wasn't and that the structure that has been built would be pulled down. Can anyone elaborate when they may be pulling that part down, as to me it would appear that houses have been built on top of the existing structure since planning approval was granted. Surely they wouldn't build houses on top if it needed to come down?
I have to agree with RG in that the developer has had the plan all the time knowing that when he wanted to activate it, a quick planning application and hey presto he can get on with it. I can't believe that the building that seems to have arisen to cover the little cafe piazza that was originally to go on the corner could have been put together so quickly. It for sure takes up a lot of space.
I have to agree with RG in that the developer has had the plan all the time knowing that when he wanted to activate it, a quick planning application and hey presto he can get on with it. I can't believe that the building that seems to have arisen to cover the little cafe piazza that was originally to go on the corner could have been put together so quickly. It for sure takes up a lot of space.
Obvious really, this was on the drawing board from the start, the images of a nice little cafe area with tables opposite the Park was a really pleasing little image to put before the public. If they had shown the true images of the finished construction then just think how many more objections there may have been? Any how the construction industry are able to do just as they please in Newbury. WBC just roll over and say how soon do you want building to begin?
It now seems obvious that we have all been conned at least for the last 18 months. I am absolutely certain now that whilst Victoria Square was part of the original design, once John Lewis expressed an interest the design was changed to accomodate them. (You can't blame the developer for doing this) I am quite convinced that Nick Carter, Patrick Griffin and the secret society has known about this for a long time and the development construction was altered accordingly. The construction that we have all seen has been built assuming that planning permission would be granted (which it has). What West Berks wants is what West Berks gets, even if they have to manipulate a public consultation to get it.
Good let's boycott John Lewis then. When it opens, the newbury.net grumblers will be out in force, bearing placards with SAY NO TO SCATTER CUSHIONS, CLEAR OFF WITH YOUR KITCHENWARE, and JOHN LEWIS - TAKING THE PIAZZA.
Good let's boycott John Lewis then. When it opens, the newbury.net grumblers will be out in force, bearing placards with SAY NO TO SCATTER CUSHIONS, CLEAR OFF WITH YOUR KITCHENWARE, and JOHN LEWIS - TAKING THE PIAZZA.
Nothing to do with John Lewis. Just an example of another fast one pulled on the people of the town by a small minority "in the know".
What would that be then? JL will be occupying a building that originally was to be 4-5 cafes. So, that building has been there a while, hence the houses going on the top.
What would that be then? JL will be occupying a building that originally was to be 4-5 cafes. So, that building has been there a while, hence the houses going on the top.
Mr Lovejoy you are obviously a little slow on the uptake.
John Lewis are not moving into a building which was supposed to be 4-5 cafes. They are moving into a redesigned area of the shopping centre which obviously (as we now realise) was already under construction long before they applied for the planning permission for it.
They had obviously been assured by Nick Carter and his chums that they would get the required permission and if John Lewis decided against it, they would have a nice anchor store already built to tempt another client maybe Primark.
Mr Lovejoy you are obviously a little slow on the uptake.
John Lewis are not moving into a building which was supposed to be 4-5 cafes. They are moving into a redesigned area of the shopping centre which obviously (as we now realise) was already under construction long before they applied for the planning permission for it.
They had obviously been assured by Nick Carter and his chums that they would get the required permission and if John Lewis decided against it, they would have a nice anchor store already built to tempt another client maybe Primark.
I understand that JL is being built on an area that was original proposed as an open area.
The area was originally a row of cafes etc with an open area infront. The individual cafe units are now in the process of being combined, & the area infront will be built upon to enlarge the square footage for JL.
The area was originally a row of cafes etc with an open area infront. The individual cafe units are now in the process of being combined, & the area infront will be built upon to enlarge the square footage for JL.
The area was originally a row of cafes etc with an open area infront. The individual cafe units are now in the process of being combined, & the area infront will be built upon to enlarge the square footage for JL.
What would that be then? JL will be occupying a building that originally was to be 4-5 cafes. So, that building has been there a while, hence the houses going on the top.
here are the artist's impression of the location. It would seem to me that the footings must have been in some long time ago for them to have got this far.
Lovejoy, you were the one who dismissed me when I said that the building wouldn't be knocked down, look through your comments. As for extending outwards, it's hardly a significant increase now the frame is up. We were basically conned, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was the plan all along!!!
here are the artist's impression of the location. It would seem to me that the footings must have been in some long time ago for them to have got this far.
Notice how the colour scheme will blend in with the new Pavillion Pidgeon Loft or perhaps it will eventually become known as an new Anchor Store???
Lovejoy, you were the one who dismissed me when I said that the building wouldn't be knocked down, look through your comments. As for extending outwards, it's hardly a significant increase now the frame is up. We were basically conned, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was the plan all along!!!
Look at the two artists impressions - the JL building partly sits on the area covered by the tables, chairs & parasols. Or, if you look at the tower in the original impression, there is a white facade, supported on columns that the JL building will cover - as the footprint is bigger than the original plan & what is there now.
Look at the two artists impressions - the JL building partly sits on the area covered by the tables, chairs & parasols. Or, if you look at the tower in the original impression, there is a white facade, supported on columns that the JL building will cover - as the footprint is bigger than the original plan & what is there now.
btw - parts of the building have been demolished.
The square in front of the restaurants is still going to be there, isn't it?
Lovejoy, you were the one who dismissed me when I said that the building wouldn't be knocked down, look through your comments. As for extending outwards, it's hardly a significant increase now the frame is up. We were basically conned, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was the plan all along!!!
Don't jump to too many conclusions, they did erect a brand new tower crane last weekend. They would not have done this if there was not going to be substantial alterations to the existing structure.
Could somebody please explain what is an Anchor Store?
There was one 'Anchor store' in Parkway, that was the big store for Debenhams that anchored the development. There was only to be one big anchor store, that was it. The rest of the shops were smaller units. Still big but not major. Then they, the developers, Standard Life got the word that John Lewis at Home might want to open. This required another BIG department block. This was applied for and approved by the council and as it would anchor the southern end, it was called a second anchor store. If you take the trouble to have a look at the before and after artist's impressions, all will be clear. P.S. they do not sell anchors.
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