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March 11, 2011, 2:09pm Report to Moderator
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... as opposed to spending in an irresponsible way a la Labour?
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March 11, 2011, 3:42pm Report to Moderator

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That's unfair, you can't hold that against us locally, just like we can't hold what Cameron and Clegg are doing against the parties locally.
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March 11, 2011, 4:58pm Report to Moderator
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That's unfair, you can't hold that against us locally, just like we can't hold what Cameron and Clegg are doing against the parties locally.


Really? The cuts you are so angry about are a direct result of Cameron & Clegg central government cuts. Necessary because of the feckless way Labour stuffed the civil service and wasted money on a grand scale (St Barts for example). They have to cut somewhere and frankly wherever they cut, you would have attempted to make capital.

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All I'm saying is that this could have been planned better, rather than no planning at all.
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March 11, 2011, 5:31pm Report to Moderator
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All I'm saying is that this could have been planned better, rather than no planning at all.


How? Have a meeting, decide to cut the youth club budget and then cut it the next week? The alternative is the thing that you (and I) see as a cynical attempt to deflect from the cuts.... the "big society".

Whatever is cut, someone will be upset. I'll be upset if we lose the rights of way team, but I don't see it as more important than education.

To return to a previous debate (and I know it's two separate councils and budgets), but I think it's wrong that a small number will be getting a new and as far as I can see totally unnecessary skatepark for £200,000, when many more will lose their youth clubs at a cost of £250,000.
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No I'm not a conservative.

If the idea is not to save money - why bother changing anything at all? The very process of change will cost money as the consultants handling any change will all want their pound of flesh.


First cost saving  stop hiring consultants.
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... as opposed to spending in an irresponsible way a la Labour?


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That's unfair, you can't hold that against us locally, just like we can't hold what Cameron and Clegg are doing against the parties locally.


Only because locally we weren't stupid enough to vote Labour!!
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Only because locally we weren't stupid enough to vote Labour!!


Who are we stupid enough to vote for now? Completely flummoxed as there is not one party that I would willingly vote for after this last fiasco?  

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Who are we stupid enough to vote for now? Completely flummoxed as there is not one party that I would willingly vote for after this last fiasco?  



I wouldn't hold what Labour did nationally against the local branch. That being said, you can't hold what Cameron and Clegg are doing against the local parties either. Obviously I am biased, but what have the Conservatives done locally to give you any confidence they can sort out th mess they created here? Poor planning, vanity projects that nobody want, poor road network, schools that are struugling. What have they done that is positive in West berkshire?
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