No more to say really.  (expect that WBC have suddenly become as tight as a gnats chuff and they aint saying anything to anybody - and have been keeping shtumm all week)


Happy Christmas to smack-heads, crack-heads, shoplifters, drunks, fighters, innocent by-standers, trouble makers and those who've paid for it.

From your all your friends at WBC.

Surely they would have accounted for this in the planning stage and this must be a slight glitch? Or not?

Or not. (apparently)


Threep.

Quoted from richard.garvie

Surely they would have accounted for this in the planning stage and this must be a slight glitch? Or not?

Planning?  Great plan to change the system and find it doesn't work on one of the busiest weekends of the year.

Keep the Magistrate's court here, but can't see any of the criminals to fill it! Nice one WBC!

How did the world cope before CCTV?

Quoted from user23.3

How did the world cope before CCTV?

Why do you think it was 'invented'?

Quoted from Greenham Common

Why do you think it was 'invented'?

To add to the plot of 1984? Wasn't that where it was "invented"?

So because it wasn't planned correctly, we should go without CCTV? I guess that would save the council even more money...

The thing is, if this is down to poor planning, someone needs to take the can. Too often do we have to put up with hideous decisions or outcomes and yet everyone keeps their jobs. Let's have some accountability for a change. Does anyone know how long the radio systems were / are off for?

It's not just the 'normal' CCTV cameras that have moved base, it's also the ENPR monitors. Those who have seen any of the Police 'documentaries' on telly will know of these Electronic Number Plate Recognition cameras. There's a set in the middle of St Johns Roundabout for instance. Connected to the national database they go 'ping' when a known (flagged) vehicle passes. The database contains the numbers of those cars etc that have insurance, mot's and tax. Cars believed to be involved in robberies, violence and the drugs trade are also on it. As are the registration numbers of known sex offenders and those on the Sex Offences Register.

Under the old system, a known pedophile caused a 'ping' as he /she drove onto the roundabout, thus alerted, the monitoring team followed it down Bart Street and into Northbrook Street. Because of their local knowledge, the monitoring team would know which coppers were on duty, and even probably where they were. Thus a message would go out asking - let's call them Shane and Matt - to go round to the Early Learning Centre where tha car belonging to a known sex offender had just stopped. They could thus knock on the car window and find out if there was a lawful excuse as to why the car was there.

But no more.

Do you have any idea how many cameras they have to look at now in Windsor? How many screens they monitor? Can you imagine how often those pings go off? Almost continually. Thus the volume is turned down and no action is taken. There are just too many 'pings' and a complete lack of 'local knowledge' or time to track anyone in particular. If a sex offender now sets off a ping as he / she drives into town, NO camera tracking wil take place, No calls to the nearest coppers (by name), No 'just pop round to Early Learning will you?

This move has put people at risk, not just businesses and their stock, (that's bad enough) but real law-abiding citizens

That's the real thoughtlessness here, sure they now got really good quality images of you being beaten to death, but what they won't have is footage of the cops turning up in time and saving you. ('specially this week, as Windsor can't speak to anyone here on the radio)

Welcome to Newbury, it's open house, fill yer boots.


Threep.

That's why I love this place, and to be fair most local forums.

The rabid scaremongering based on third hand rumour can't fail to amuse anyone with a sense of humour.

Ironic that CCTV is the name of one of the largest television broadcasters in Asia, with all these Chinese included in this thread.

Well, until someone is prepared to be a whistle blower, it is likely to remain a rumour.  At the end of the day user23.3, your opinion carries no more kudos that than the post previous one.  Possibly even less so.

Quoted from Greenham Common

Well, until someone is prepared to be a whistle blower, it is likely to remain a rumour.  At the end of the day user23.3, your opinion carries no more kudos that than the post previous one.  Possibly even less so.

All opinions are equal but some are less equal than others?

There's a theme developing in this thread.

I've not read the paper yet, but isn't there a story about this? I am only going by what I've been told on here and by email, and that is that there have been numerous problems since the move and there seems to be no quick fix to all of them. There was bound to be teething problems, but I guess we will never know why these issues have come about. No accountability on this or anything else for that matter.

Quoted from user23.3

All opinions are equal but some are less equal than others?

If you have a number of people with differing opinions, it is feasible that one or more will be accurate and others not.  The council are seemingly trying to play down expectations regards CCTV footage of an incident in Bart St.  Whether due to the changes or not is unclear.