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| November 30, 2010, 11:04am |
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Blackdog you are coming across on this post as a little boorish and snobby. I am sure you are not and do not mean to give this impression. Your spelling and grammar are impeccable, but your post is giving a totally incorrect impression of you and your views. Is this not a perfect example of content and meaning being more important than grammar and spelling? |
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| blackdog |
| November 30, 2010, 11:53am |
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If it is boorish and snobby to hope that people would use better grammar more often, to believe that most people are capable of doing so (or learning to do so), and that meaning can be communicated more effectively using good grammar - then I must be boorish and snobby.
I have never said that grammar is more important than meaning - that would be absurd.
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| massifheed |
| November 30, 2010, 1:01pm |
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If it is boorish and snobby to hope that people would use better grammar more often, to believe that most people are capable of doing so (or learning to do so), and that meaning can be communicated more effectively using good grammar - then I must be boorish and snobby.
In that case, put me down as being boorish and snobby too. I would think that the number of people with genuine learning difficulties is somewhat out-weighed by those blackdog is talking about who are capable of using grammar correctly for the most part, but for whatever reason, don't. Also, it's my belief that the "netiquette" of not criticising someones grammar has been taken further than was originally intended. It certainly used to be the case that it was bad form to point out occasional typos that are so common when replying, often quickly, to other peoples posts or messages in chat rooms (remember those?). But now it seems that it is fine to simply not bother making ones contribution readable, because anyone that comments on it in the negative will simply draw more criticism themselves. |
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| massifheed |
| November 30, 2010, 1:05pm |
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Or, to put it another way, for those who aren't fussed about grammar...
If it is boorish and snobby to hope that people would use better grammar more often, to believe that most people are capable of doing so (or learning to do so), and that meaning can be communicated more effectively using good grammar - then I must be boorish and snobby.
I have never said that grammar is more important than meaning - that would be absurd.
in that case put me down as being boorish and snobby too i would think that the number of people with genuine learning difficulties is somewhat out-weighed by those blackdog is talking about who are capable of using grammar correctly for the most part but for whatever reason don't also its my belief that the netiquette of not criticising someones grammar has been taken further than was originally intended it certainly used to be the case that it was bad form to point out occasional typos that are so common when replying often quickly to other peoples posts or messages in chat rooms remember those but now it seems that it is fine to simply not bother making ones contribution readable because anyone that comments on it in the negative will simply draw more criticism themselves  |
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| Greenham Common |
| November 30, 2010, 2:38pm |
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Or, to put it another way, for those who aren't fussed about grammar... in that case put me down as being boorish and snobby too i would think that the number of people with genuine learning difficulties is somewhat out-weighed by those blackdog is talking about who are capable of using grammar correctly for the most part but for whatever reason don't also its my belief that the netiquette of not criticising someones grammar has been taken further than was originally intended it certainly used to be the case that it was bad form to point out occasional typos that are so common when replying often quickly to other peoples posts or messages in chat rooms remember those but now it seems that it is fine to simply not bother making ones contribution readable because anyone that comments on it in the negative will simply draw more criticism themselves
I say the majority of posts where the English is exceptionally poor, it would be by people who probably couldn't do much better. Of course there is always room for improvement for anything, but I think most of us 'regulars' can tell the difference between laziness, typo, proof reading error or other. At the end of the day, this is a voluntary medium with which to communicate and as such we needn't get so hung-up on the standard of English. |
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| user23.3 |
| November 30, 2010, 7:08pm |
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I say the majority of posts where the English is exceptionally poor, it would be by people who probably couldn't do much better. Of course there is always room for improvement for anything, but I think most of us 'regulars' can tell the difference between laziness, typo, proof reading error or other. At the end of the day, this is a voluntary medium with which to communicate and as such we needn't get so hung-up on the standard of English.
Exactly. It's the message that counts not the manner in which it's delivered, unless it's offensive, but that's not what's being discussed here. |
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| old codger |
| November 30, 2010, 9:20pm |
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Exactly. It's the message that counts not the manner in which it's delivered, unless it's offensive, but that's not what's being discussed here.
Was it not Marshall McLuhon who said....."The medium is the message" |
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| blackdog |
| December 10, 2010, 2:38am |
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Grammar lesson: "Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse."
[thanks to Darya Pino @summertomato] |
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