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lengthus
November 21, 2010, 2:57pm Report to Moderator

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there are plans from the council to turn the area outside my house in gaywood drive in to an area of trees and no parking which we are all dead against if they do this they will only add to the already bad parking problem that we have and possibly cause conflict between residents do the council really have no sense
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November 21, 2010, 3:10pm Report to Moderator

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Get all residents to sign a petition against it and prove you (all of you) don't want it.

Point out to WBC that they should be looking for ways to save money, not to spend it against the residents' wishes.

Get NWN to run a story, hopefully based on WBC wasting money in times of hardship.
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brian
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Quoted from blackdog
Get all residents to sign a petition against it and prove you (all of you) don't want it.

Point out to WBC that they should be looking for ways to save money, not to spend it against the residents' wishes.

Get NWN to run a story, hopefully based on WBC wasting money in times of hardship.


Sometimes a petition counts as one vote so if your residents want to retain the status quo, then bombard them (WBC highways) with a letter from each of the residents and any other interested party. For instance, do the buses run down the road and will it become difficult for them to use the route. Write to them. If there was a fire, would an HGV fire appliance have difficulty, write to them as well. Contact your councillor and ask him to meet you to discuss the proposals. You might want to ensure that this actually is a plan which must be advertised and not just heresay.
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jay
November 21, 2010, 5:53pm Report to Moderator

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If this is the Gaywood Drive near Fir Tree Lane, I recall most properties had driveways.
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Brewmaster
November 21, 2010, 6:13pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from lengthus
there are plans from the council to turn the area outside my house in gaywood drive in to an area of trees and no parking which we are all dead against if they do this they will only add to the already bad parking problem that we have and possibly cause conflict between residents do the council really have no sense

I'm sorry to see that the shift and all the punctuation keys have been stolen from your keyboard.

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brian newman
November 21, 2010, 7:06pm Report to Moderator

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The punctuation does not make a difference to the post.
It still gets the point over no matter what some people think.
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Greenham Common
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Quoted from Brewmaster
I'm sorry to see that the shift and all the punctuation keys have been stolen from your keyboard.

Probably by the same person who stole your humility.

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HJD
November 21, 2010, 8:10pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Brewmaster

I'm sorry to see that the shift and all the punctuation keys have been stolen from your keyboard.


I see someone has got his 'Miserable old sod' head on again today !
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Threepwood
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Just to help us...and without giving your location away, can we take it that they are not wanting to plant trees in the road, and therefore this area must at present be laid grass? Are you saying that this area of grass is currently being used to park cars on?


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spartacus
November 21, 2010, 11:13pm Report to Moderator

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Just to help us...and without giving your location away, can we take it that they are not wanting to plant trees in the road, and therefore this area must at present be laid grass? Are you saying that this area of grass is currently being used to park cars on?


Threep.

I imagine that this is a proposal to stop some of the more inconsiderate residents from turning their street into a set from All Quiet on the Western Front...? Some residents might be against this (lengthus perhaps?) as they'll struggle to park their five cars on the driveway, but there will be other residents I'm sure who have have been getting increasingly pi$$ed off whenever they see their neighbours chewing up the grass verges outside their houses and turning the whole area into a mudbath.    

Are you sure that the residents haven't already submitted a petition to WBC demanding that they do something about people destroying the grass verges and devaluing their property?  Perhaps lengthus wasn't asked to sign it as he is the main culprit?     

It's probably a cheaper option than converting all the grass verges to block paving parking (which seems to have happened on all the length of Gaywood Dr from Fir Tree Lane up to Birchwood Road)  
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November 22, 2010, 4:35pm Report to Moderator

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[quote=16]Just to help us...and without giving your location away, can we take it that they are not wanting to plant trees in the road, and therefore this area must at present be laid grass? Are you saying that this area of grass is currently being used to park cars on?


Threep.[/quote

I rang the council one day,and asked if I may park my vehicle on the grass[speen] and the lady replied "no,sorry,but it"s an offence to park on the grass verges"......I replied that she should take a walk round here,and see how many offensive parkers live here!

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spartacus
November 22, 2010, 4:56pm Report to Moderator

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(Grabbed from a Google search)

1.     "It is only an offence for Heavy Goods vehicles or buses (any vehicle over a certain weight) to park on grass verges."
2.     "It is an offence for any vehicle to obstruct a footpath. (Grass verges are decorative features - not footpaths, so are not obstructed.)"
3.     "Private cars/light vans are not committing any offence if they park on a grass verge - as the law stands at present."
4.     "Vehicle drivers can only be made to pay for damages if they can be proven to be the driver of a vehicle causing specific identifiable damage. Without the evidence drivers cannot be made to pay for any repairs. (Including damaged kerbs, pavements, drains or manhole covers.)"
5.     "Householders can pay for the installation of Vergemasterâ„¢ posts on the verges outside their own homes, but as most of the offenders parking cars on the verges are the residents - they decline to take up the offer. (I also understand from another sources that if a vehicle, having hit the Vergemasterâ„¢ post, is damaged by the said Vergemasterâ„¢ post, although they are frangible, the resident responsible for the installation could be held liable for the damage to the vehicle by the damaged vehicle's insurance company.)"
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Threepwood
November 22, 2010, 6:07pm Report to Moderator

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From 'Ask the Police' uk:

Q655: Can cars park on grass verges?

No, cars cannot park, fully or partly, on council owned grass verges. There will more than likely be a local bye law to specifically prevent this but there are also a number of other offences that can be committed (unnecessary obstruction, criminal damage to grass, etc).

If the land is privately owned and the landowner has given permission then it would be permitted.



https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q655.htm


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November 22, 2010, 6:39pm Report to Moderator

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I think both posts serve to confuse somewhat.  It seems that there is not a specific law about parking on grass verges, other than bye-laws, but to prosecute, there would have to be proof that the person parking on a grass verge was causing an 'unecessary' obstruction or had singularly caused the damage witnessed.
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Threepwood
November 22, 2010, 6:42pm Report to Moderator

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It aint the damage so much as whether or not there's any By-Laws prohibiting it. (Parking)

It would seem from Uncles post that there are.


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