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richard.garvie
November 15, 2010, 7:03pm Report to Moderator

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Finally got a reply today to the challenge I gave our MP regarding the court closure and CSR, his response was "a public meeting would fail to satisfy the concerns of most of the room".
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blackdog
November 15, 2010, 9:38pm Report to Moderator

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Can't argue with his response - most public meetings are like that.
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richard.garvie
November 15, 2010, 9:44pm Report to Moderator

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I don't agree, but hey ho.
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A case of turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
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massifheed
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Well, that is a surprise! Another tory-bashing thread from broken record Garvie. Is there not a forum on your own website where you can post your bilge? Why waste BrianB's bandwidth with your apponent-smearing rubbish?

I imagine there is an identical thread over at newburytoday too?
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richard.garvie
November 16, 2010, 8:48am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from massifheed
Well, that is a surprise! Another tory-bashing thread from broken record Garvie. Is there not a forum on your own website where you can post your bilge? Why waste BrianB's bandwidth with your apponent-smearing rubbish?

I imagine there is an identical thread over at newburytoday too?


Tory bashing? Hardly, it's not my fault our MP is a Tory, and it's not my fault he refuses to engage in a debate. You might be happy with the way things are, but a lot of people are not. So if nobody else will publicly stand up and raise these issues with the current elected members on the council or in parliament, I WILL. There is now a choice, and if people decide to stick with the Tories then that is their choice. However, if people are made aware of the current shenanigans, maybe just maybe they will decide to vote for somebody else.
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November 16, 2010, 9:23am Report to Moderator
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but a lot of people are not

The last election results hardly support this statement.
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richard.garvie
November 16, 2010, 11:42am Report to Moderator

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43.6% didn't vote for Richard Benyon. But my point is that for everyone who voted Conservative, do they all support every saving and every cut?
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massifheed
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43.6% didn't vote for Richard Benyon.


Another surprise! You're spinning election results to try and make your position sound stronger. Taken in context, 56.4% of those who voted, voted for Benyon. The next closest candidate was Rendel who, in comparison only took 33.5%, and then of course Labour who, given your method of reporting results, 95.7% of the public didn't vote for.

Put it another way, Benyon took more votes than the rest combined.
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richard.garvie
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Yes, but on the basis that he said thing like the EMA would be protected, tuition fees would not be massively hiked and that sure start centres would remain open.

How many of those who elected Richard are actually supportive of these cuts?
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massifheed
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Yes, but on the basis that he said thing like the EMA would be protected, tuition fees would not be massively hiked and that sure start centres would remain open.

How many of those who elected Richard are actually supportive of these cuts?


Oh, right. Now, after initially quoting figures, you dont want to discuss election results?  
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richard.garvie
November 16, 2010, 12:16pm Report to Moderator

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I'm happy to discuss them. What do you want to discuss? Labour have been third place for some time? That we didn't win the seat? That we didn't get our deposit back? That Benyon and Rendel spent twelve times more than Hannah? As I joined Labour after the election, it's not really my place to speak on behalf of the party on that campaign. But Hannah raised issues and questions that weren't raised by others, and Benyon gave very clear answers. He's already broken a lot of what he said, and from reading the Green Party site, that is something Richard does a lot.

At the next election, how can anyone believe anything he will say?
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I voted against him.
Just saying.

Labour and the Conservatives both jointly have a lot to answer for
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Tory bashing? Hardly, it's not my fault our MP is a Tory, and it's not my fault he refuses to engage in a debate. You might be happy with the way things are, but a lot of people are not.


Why should a busy MP engage in a public debate with you. You seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur. I still can't determine if you are running for parliament or to become a local councillor. If it is the latter, then leave out the national politics. If the former, then I don't think this is the place for your campaigning.
I understand that RB runs a surgery for his constituents, pop along and you can let him know what's bothering you.
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jay
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Why should a busy MP engage in a public debate with you. You seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur. I still can't determine if you are running for parliament or to become a local councillor. If it is the latter, then leave out the national politics. If the former, then I don't think this is the place for your campaigning.
I understand that RB runs a surgery for his constituents, pop along and you can let him know what's bothering you.


So you are suggesting all interested parties in the closure if the courts meet up at Richard Benyon surgery so they can put their arguements against the closure and he can explain his parties point of view?  Is this not called a debate?
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