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| November 12, 2010, 6:01pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
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richard.garvie |
| November 12, 2010, 6:01pm |
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I agree.
Garvie now looks hell bent on forum-domination on here also.
Let's face it, Labour ruined this country over 13 awful years of boom and now the bust. The party is an irrelevance, both nationwide and in West Berks.
And Garvie; how is that Trotsykite Tony Blair who started a war in the Middle East gets a position as a "peace envoy" to...you guessed it..the Middle East!
Have you seen his mansion in Buckinghamshire? The perfect pad for a Bollinger Bolshevik like him and his ilk. SHAME!
I'm glad to see the Lib Dems and the Tories piping up with their "Labour ruined the world" act. Let me ask you a question on the "debt" left by the Labour Government. Let's just say the collapse of the Lehmans Brothers and the situation that followed happened under the Tories. Would they have stood by and let the banks all go bust? For every pound brought in by taxation, Labour inherited a debt spend of 8.5p. Before the financial collapse, that figure was 7.5p. So it was actually less that the "golden generation" that the Tories apparently left us, we rebuilt the infrastructure of the UK, building new schools, hospitals and introduced things like the minimum wage, child trust fund, pregnancy grants, paternity, part time workers equal right, all of which the Tories opposed. Nobody in West Berks could have changed any of that, just like they couldn't change the fact we went to war or the financial services industry collapse. What we can have a say on in West Berkshire is local infrastructure, local spending and the end product recieved by local tax payers, and the fact that West Berks are also picking on the old and the poor show that yet again they have bottled the big decisions. We pay the elected members of the district over £600k and they still can't take the big decisions. SHAME ON THEM. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:02pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:03pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:04pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:04pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:04pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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user23.3 |
| November 12, 2010, 6:05pm |
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I'm glad to see the Lib Dems and the Tories piping up with their "Labour ruined the world" act. Let me ask you a question on the "debt" left by the Labour Government. Let's just say the collapse of the Lehmans Brothers and the situation that followed happened under the Tories. Would they have stood by and let the banks all go bust? For every pound brought in by taxation, Labour inherited a debt spend of 8.5p. Before the financial collapse, that figure was 7.5p. So it was actually less that the "golden generation" that the Tories apparently left us, we rebuilt the infrastructure of the UK, building new schools, hospitals and introduced things like the minimum wage, child trust fund, pregnancy grants, paternity, part time workers equal right, all of which the Tories opposed.
Nobody in West Berks could have changed any of that, just like they couldn't change the fact we went to war or the financial services industry collapse. What we can have a say on in West Berkshire is local infrastructure, local spending and the end product recieved by local tax payers, and the fact that West Berks are also picking on the old and the poor show that yet again they have bottled the big decisions. We pay the elected members of the district over £600k and they still can't take the big decisions. SHAME ON THEM.
Stop posting Labour-By-Numbers rhetoric and answer the question. How do you know any of this is excess spending? Let's take two examples, Democratic Services team: Save £100k (Currently £300k a year) Environmental health: Possible £60k a year saving (currently £660k) Explain how you'd cut waste here. |
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richard.garvie |
| November 12, 2010, 6:07pm |
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We will be presenting our findings with supporting documentation to Nick Carter, I'm more than happy to meet with you after that meeting and go through it with you. |
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fencer |
| November 12, 2010, 6:08pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn. |
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richard.garvie |
| November 12, 2010, 6:09pm |
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I propose to cut funding for Tony Blair's bodyguards.
Is he worth guarding...er, no.
Garvie would probably rather see us return to the days of strikes, Tony Benn, Derek Hatton and tax and spend big state socialism.
Some never learn.
Productive argument. |
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user23.3 |
| November 12, 2010, 6:10pm |
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We will be presenting our findings with supporting documentation to Nick Carter, I'm more than happy to meet with you after that meeting and go through it with you.
Answer the question Richard and don't patronise us by telling us all here we're not important enough to know the detail yet. I'm calling your bluff and am betting you don't know and have just plucked these figures out of the air. |
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richard.garvie |
| November 12, 2010, 6:21pm |
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Meet me tomorrow for a coffee and I will go through the spreadsheets and accompanying documentation if you really want to see it. I've always turned up when I said I would, you've always ducked out!!! |
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user23.3 |
| November 12, 2010, 6:26pm |
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Meet me tomorrow for a coffee and I will go through the spreadsheets and accompanying documentation if you really want to see it. I've always turned up when I said I would, you've always ducked out!!!
I'm not going on a date with you so you can get me between your speadsheets, Dickie. Post the figures to the items I asked about on here or everyone's going to think you've just made the whole lot up. |
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richard.garvie |
| November 12, 2010, 6:30pm |
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Democratic services is part staff reduction, part working practices and environmental health is by reducing staff numbers by two. |
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