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Threepwood
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We have requested CCTV at our end of town, but apparently the crime figures do not justify this


As you may know, our CCTV control room is being moved elsewhere. There are approx 100 cameras in our area. The new control room does not has the capability to run them all so approx 75 of our cameras are being turned off permanently. This is something that W.B.C. have been keeping very quiet about,  a/ because of public outrage, and b/ because some companies paid section 106 money to install many of them to start with.

It is perhaps not surprising therefore that they are reluctant to fit extra.


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BrianB
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Quoted from Threepwood


As you may know, our CCTV control room is being moved elsewhere. There are approx 100 cameras in our area. The new control room does not has the capability to run them all so approx 75 of our cameras are being turned off permanently. This is something that W.B.C. have been keeping very quiet about,  a/ because of public outrage, and b/ because some companies paid section 106 money to install many of them to start with.

It is perhaps not surprising therefore that they are reluctant to fit extra.


Threep.



There is so much that needs exposing on this topic.

If you have any inside information on this Threep, it is time to spill the beans.
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massifheed
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Quoted from Threepwood
There are approx 100 cameras in our area. The new control room does not has the capability to run them all so approx 75 of our cameras are being turned off permanently.


If that is true then it is an absolute scandal. Indeed, as BrianB says, please do spill the beans if you have more info. It's one thing for the operation of CCTV to be handed over someone else as long as the service level remains the same. Quite another when the service level is being cut, and it's being kept quiet because of that reason.

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richard.garvie
October 19, 2010, 1:47pm Report to Moderator

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If you don't want to publish it, send it to me and I will. 75 being switched off??? Surely not???
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BrianB
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Quoted from richard.garvie
If you don't want to publish it, send it to me and I will. 75 being switched off??? Surely not???


These are not just cameras in Newbury Town Centre, but those in Hungerford and Thatcham, as well as those proposed for Theale and Pangbourne.
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Err, wasn't there a long thread on here about invasion of privacy & the nanny state when more cameras were being proposed?
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Threepwood
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There is so much that needs exposing on this topic.
If you have any inside information on this Threep, it is time to spill the beans.


My informants (both members of Thames Valleys Finest) told me last Friday and Saturday respectively,  and both still maintain the info is still correct today. ('cos I just checked).  Hungerford and Thatcham are also having their cameras reduced. Those may well be included in the figure I was given of 75. I have no knowledge of those in Pangbourne or Theale.

The move to Windsor is due in December.


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spartacus
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ITV and other major TV companies are getting very concerned about the move nationally for the scaling down of CCTV coverage.  They may have to start putting on dramas and other worthwhile TV projects rather than just regurgitate cheap and boring CCTV 'real-life-crime' clips....
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user23.3
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I've no idea whether this is true or not, however it's luxuries like this we can do without if it keeps a few more bobbies on the beat in a post-October 20th world.
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richard.garvie
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I wouldn't say they were luxuries. In the past, CCTV was justified as being used in crime hotspots. I just don't understand why West Berks can't tell us which cameras are going and which are staying. Have West Berks published a breakdown of how they have calculated potential savings???
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user23.3
October 19, 2010, 7:26pm Report to Moderator

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I wouldn't say they were luxuries. In the past, CCTV was justified as being used in crime hotspots. I just don't understand why West Berks can't tell us which cameras are going and which are staying. Have West Berks published a breakdown of how they have calculated potential savings???
Given no one knows exactly how deep the cuts will be until tomorrow afternoon it's probably very hard to know how much is needed to be saved.

This applies to all public spending, bar the stuff that "accidentally" seems to have ended up in the papers.
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Threepwood
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The trouble is the change of base to Windsor was announced before the election.


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user23.3
October 19, 2010, 7:41pm Report to Moderator

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The trouble is the change of base to Windsor was announced before the election.Threep.
That's hardly "trouble", I call it good forward planning. Whoever was elected was going to have to make cuts, the only difference between the parties was the depth and speed of the cuts.

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PaulaM
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Well, I for one, would be happier if my staff were locking up after dark and walking home under CCTV cameras.

Don't think you can put a price on peoples safety these days . . . isn't there another thread .... apparently some guy has just had his throat cut..... if that was on CCTV it would save an awful lot of police time.
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Quoted from PaulaM
Well, I for one, would be happier if my staff were locking up after dark and walking home under CCTV cameras.

Don't think you can put a price on peoples safety these days . . . isn't there another thread .... apparently some guy has just had his throat cut..... if that was on CCTV it would save an awful lot of police time.
And there's another thread that says "perception is actually worse than it is".

We'd need cameras everywhere to make it effective, would you be willing to have one outside your house?

I'm sure Mary Bale is cursing the person that did.
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