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brian
September 29, 2010, 7:05pm Report to Moderator

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When we strated talking about a skating facility at Corby, bless my soul, I though we were talking about skating. I couldn't understand what the concrete bowl thing was about and then the penny dropped, we're talking about skateboarding ramps.
Now, that, in my opinion, is not for 'across all age groups' as has been suggested, it's a young persons sport. Whatever the Town Council are proposing in Victoria Park, and I somehow doubt that they will be able to raise the funds, due to their original sponsors pulling out, I would hope that there is a deal of imagination and it will be what the users want. At the moment, it is free but I seriously doubt that regular skate boarders will be able or want to afford seven pounds a day.

As far as Greenham is concerned, I have no doubt in my mind that the last thing the board of the trust want is that type of facility. As I said before, they are doing their best to shunt all of the community stuff off to Newbury and WBC are going along with the carrots that they are dangling. Hence the proposal for the massive carbuncle in the park that they, including dear Pam are so excited about.

I'm just going back to re-read the thread from the beginning with the new understanding of what we are really talking about.
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PaulaM
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Great, so you're planning to send kids roaming round an industrial estate at night. Good luck on getting the planning permission on that then, I'm sure you won't get many objections from the business owners in the area.


A few days ago, you were running me down for my lack of community spirit - now hark at you !!
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user23.3
September 29, 2010, 7:09pm Report to Moderator

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A few days ago, you were running me down for my lack of community spirit - now hark at you !!
Point taken, I just don't think an industrial estate is the best place for the youth of Newbury to spend their spare time.

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richard.garvie
September 29, 2010, 7:13pm Report to Moderator

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OK Blackdog, if permission has not been granted I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you and fight for a suitable proposal. Are you genuinely prepared to sit down and discuss a suitable alternative???
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richard.garvie
September 29, 2010, 7:14pm Report to Moderator

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Point taken, I just don't think an industrial estate is the best place for the youth of Newbury to spend their spare time.



But sending them off to Greenham is more suitable???
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PaulaM
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Point taken, I just don't think an industrial estate is the best place for the youth of Newbury to spend their spare time.

  Adrenalin Alley in Corby, is by RS Components, I don't think they objected, I should imagine they have a big "say" in Corby, rather like Vodafone do here.  There are very strict rules at Corby - if you play up you are barred for life - which is the last thing a serious "skater" wants.

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user23.3
September 29, 2010, 7:16pm Report to Moderator

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But sending them off to Greenham is more suitable???
My comment was on the size, not the suitability of Greenham.
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richard.garvie
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When we strated talking about a skating facility at Corby, bless my soul, I though we were talking about skating. I couldn't understand what the concrete bowl thing was about and then the penny dropped, we're talking about skateboarding ramps.
Now, that, in my opinion, is not for 'across all age groups' as has been suggested, it's a young persons sport. Whatever the Town Council are proposing in Victoria Park, and I somehow doubt that they will be able to raise the funds, due to their original sponsors pulling out, I would hope that there is a deal of imagination and it will be what the users want. At the moment, it is free but I seriously doubt that regular skate boarders will be able or want to afford seven pounds a day.

As far as Greenham is concerned, I have no doubt in my mind that the last thing the board of the trust want is that type of facility. As I said before, they are doing their best to shunt all of the community stuff off to Newbury and WBC are going along with the carrots that they are dangling. Hence the proposal for the massive carbuncle in the park that they, including dear Pam are so excited about.

I'm just going back to re-read the thread from the beginning with the new understanding of what we are really talking about.


We are talking about two completely different things which for whatever reason have merged into one. Victoria Park is suitable for an outdoor facility that would be free to use. What I am proposing is an indoor facility which can be used all year round, indoor and secure and run by a charitable trust.
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richard.garvie
September 29, 2010, 7:19pm Report to Moderator

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My comment was on the size, not the suitability of Greenham.


Why even talk about Greenham if it isn't suitable??? I've made it clear that a Newbury facility is the preferred option due to locality.
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user23.3
September 29, 2010, 7:21pm Report to Moderator

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Why even talk about Greenham if it isn't suitable??? I've made it clear that a Newbury facility is the preferred option due to locality.
I didn't say it wasn't suitable and I didn't bring it up, that was someone else, I just commented on your post about it.

Can we see your consultation into Newbury being the preferred option please, or I might jump to the conclusion that "someone told you this".
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richard.garvie
September 29, 2010, 7:24pm Report to Moderator

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User23, I have already offerred not only to show you information, but to take you to see where I would put the prefferred facility. If you have any interest whatsoever (rather than just distorting my comments) come along on Friday at 5pm (Victoria Park) and contribute to a constructive debate.
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user23.3
September 29, 2010, 7:25pm Report to Moderator

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User23, I have already offerred not only to show you information, but to take you to see where I would put the prefferred facility. If you have any interest whatsoever (rather than just distorting my comments) come along on Friday at 5pm (Victoria Park) and contribute to a constructive debate.
Can't we have a constructive debate here on the results of your consultation.

Post up the results of your consultation please.

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brian
September 29, 2010, 7:26pm Report to Moderator

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One of the advantages that the Midlands and the north is that there are empty industrial units all over the place which are a throwback from the days when we were an important manufacturing country. They are usually cheap on short term rentals just so that the owner can pocket a bob or two.
I can't think of any units in Newbury that don't command impressive rents and would be suitable for a charitable group to rent.

Richard, for a person who wants us to believe that you have your finger on the local pulse, you seem to be very uninformed about what is being proposed by WBC and the Greenham Trust for Victoria Park, the plans for the wharf and the loss of the Waterside so that they, WBC can build prestige apartments.
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richard.garvie
September 29, 2010, 7:52pm Report to Moderator

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Can't we have a constructive debate here on the results of your consultation.

Post up the results of your consultation please.



You are not able to have constuctive debate on here User23, possibly unable to have constructive debate at all!!!

Brian, I do need to play catchup you are right. I was under the opinion that most of it had been settled, and if that's not the case then I have been misinformed. I am away all day tomorrow, but I will spend Friday reading up and come back to you with my thoughts. I am aware of certain bits of it, but I need to understand where they are at with regards to planning permission and the like.
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user23.3
September 29, 2010, 7:58pm Report to Moderator

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You are not able to have constuctive debate on here User23, possibly unable to have constructive debate at all!!!
No, not if you're going to constantly fabricate thing I'm not. You haven't carried out a consultation have you, ergo there's no constructive debate to be had about it.

Your bluff has been called yet again and I mist say you're worst politician (and possibly the most amusing) I've ever encountered.
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