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brian
September 24, 2010, 10:02pm Report to Moderator

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With regards to buying council houses after twenty years, as long as the money is reinvested by local authorities into new housing stock, I can't see the problem. The fact is the tories sold off the housing and failed to replace it.


I don't follow that one. Why sell a house and then have to build a new one to replace it and probably make a loss on the deal. If you are in a council house and want to buy, then go down the Estate Agents and by God, there are enough of them and do just that. Then move out of your council house and hey presto, the property is available for rental again.
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I don't follow that one. Why sell a house and then have to build a new one to replace it and probably make a loss on the deal. If you are in a council house and want to buy, then go down the Estate Agents and by God, there are enough of them and do just that. Then move out of your council house and hey presto, the property is available for rental again.

Because of 'Assured Tenancies'; 'right-to-buy' schemes, and the like, are designed to get people off the books.  It is cheaper on HAs in the long run.  HAs don't agree to all requests to buy, nor on any social house.
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Because of 'Assured Tenancies'; 'right-to-buy' schemes, and the like, are designed to get people off the books.  It is cheaper on HAs in the long run.  HAs don't agree to all requests to buy, nor on any social house.


It is the 'Right to buy' scheme which doesn't quite sit right with me. I see no reason to sell off the stock of houses, there is considerable rental income to the housing associations and loans have always been available to them to allow them to build new stock to reduce the waiting lists.
If we must have social housing for unmarried mothers then why not build flats to suit the purpose. One mother, one child, two single bedrooms a kitchen/diner and small living room. Change of circumstances, ie getting a new partner, then apply for a full double bedroom house like other couples have to do.
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It is the 'Right to buy' scheme which doesn't quite sit right with me. I see no reason to sell off the stock of houses, there is considerable rental income to the housing associations and loans have always been available to them to allow them to build new stock to reduce the waiting lists.

The 'right to buy' scheme isn't actually, a right to buy.  I thought I already explained that.  Not all property is eligible to buy.  Certain stock is ring fenced, but there is, or was, the 'rent and buy' scheme that assists some people to move out, It is more cost effective to get people off the books who can be 'helped' on the property ladder, rather than remain indefinitely on the HAs books.
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The 'right to buy' scheme isn't actually, a right to buy.  I thought I already explained that.  Not all property is eligible to buy.  Certain stock is ring fenced, but there is, or was, the 'rent and buy' scheme that assists some people to move out, It is more cost effective to get people off the books who can be 'helped' on the property ladder, rather than remain indefinitely on the HAs books.


I know that now there is as you put it, ring fenced property, but when it was introduced Right to Buy meant just that and virtually all Council House tenants, given they fitted the rules on length of ocupancy and continuity of rental payment, had the right to buy. I'msure the rules will have changed now that the properties are owned by a housing association but by then, the damage was done.
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Oh I see, I'm sorry Brian, I thought you were talking about now, not then.
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