So if you assault for example a Post Office employee that's the fault of bad management of the Post Office? Back on topic, would you spit at or hit a "meanie" and blame it on bad management too.
Utterly bizarre one of the worst examples of shirking personal responsibility I've ever heard of, which is something far too prevalent in today's society.
You know exactly what I mean and I suspect you'd are one of the 'managers' who would resort to such incompetence. As to the personal attack, again, I sincerely hope that the suggestions often made here that you work for WBC are without foundation. In my view the attitudes you demonstrate aren't really compatible with public service.
I simply didn't see the comment in the same light as you, nor did I see your analogy as suitable. I would imagine the poster is simply referring to the occasional ignorance and rudeness of on this and other forums of its ilk.
"If I get abuse from anyone, I will just not participate." Hardly boorish, is it?
To reiterate: it is a lot of money for someone hard-up, who has made a genuine mistake (you can't make a deliberate mistake), but it can be loose change for someone who is well off, who doesn't care much about the rules.
I'm not saying Newbury is worse, or different, but it is one reason people are resentfull.
All fines, not just motoring, should be on a percentage of salary basis. A fine should be a deterant, where is the deterant in a pro footballer receiving a £100 fine that he works a few minutes for, but all a pensioner has to live on for a week.
It did happen in the 90s, but it stated to hurt the well-off, so it seems, and it was dropped! The means test become unworkable. I do agree with you though.
Boor - Like a churlish, rude, or unmannerly person.
How can the passage be any of those? Brusque maybe, but not boorish.
The comment didn't need to be made - it would have been polite not to have said anything. To do so was to suggest that such a reaction was normal and expected. As these were opening remarks - I would say that's being churlish touching on rude. Rather like going into a shop or reception area for the first time and seeing a notice asking you to be polite. ...Do I really need to spell it out?
You know exactly what I mean and I suspect you'd are one of the 'managers' who would resort to such incompetence. As to the personal attack, again, I sincerely hope that the suggestions often made here that you work for WBC are without foundation. In my view the attitudes you demonstrate aren't really compatible with public service.
You have suggested those that are physically assaulted suffer such a fate because of "bad management" and now you seem to have launched into an attack on me and seem to be bickering with others. Everyone reading this can draw their own conclusions.
You have suggested those that are physically assaulted suffer such a fate because of "bad management" and now you seem to have launched into an attack on me and seem to be bickering with others. Everyone reading this can draw their own conclusions.
No, as per usual, you get the wrong end of the stick, on purpose I suspect. I have no doubt that no manager would condone physical or verbal abuse but if it does happen frequently under normal face to face interviews then there is a problem that needs investigation. Putting up a sign is strike one for anybody wishing to complain or resolve a problem. It says we get a lot of abusive people in here so watch out. If there are a lot of abusive people at the desk, the question must be why and what are we doing wrong.
I have seen these signs in hospital casualty outpatients departments and I know that staff do meet confrontational people from time to time, usually drunks who probably can't read anyway so why bother with a sign.
No, as per usual, you get the wrong end of the stick, on purpose I suspect. I have no doubt that no manager would condone physical or verbal abuse but if it does happen frequently under normal face to face interviews then there is a problem that needs investigation. Putting up a sign is strike one for anybody wishing to complain or resolve a problem. It says we get a lot of abusive people in here so watch out. If there are a lot of abusive people at the desk, the question must be why and what are we doing wrong.
I have seen these signs in hospital casualty outpatients departments and I know that staff do meet confrontational people from time to time, usually drunks who probably can't read anyway so why bother with a sign.
Putting up a sign is strike one for anybody wishing to hurt any employee of that organisation because of any grievance they may have.
It's good management and no doubt cuts the number of assaults which is better for everyone involved. It doesn't say "we get a lot of abusive people here" it says "some of our staff have been caused physically distress by a few people".
Why and what are hospitals doing wrong so that they have to put up a sign asking for their staff not to be assaulted?
it would have been polite not to have said anything.
He's laying his cards on the table; I see nothing more than that. It wasn't an impolite thing to post. He is saying, if I am abused I will ignore it, what is wrong or rude with that?
As these were opening remarks - I would say that's being churlish touching on rude. Rather like going into a shop or reception area for the first time and seeing a notice asking you to be polite. ...Do I really need to spell it out?
They were his closing remarks and frankly, people on here do need reminding.
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No, as per usual, you get the wrong end of the stick, on purpose I suspect.
On this point, I don't think user23 has.
Old Goat is making a mountain out of a mole-hill with regards to greenmeanie61's opening post.
You know exactly what I mean and I suspect you'd are one of the 'managers' who would resort to such incompetence. As to the personal attack, again, I sincerely hope that the suggestions often made here that you work for WBC are without foundation. In my view the attitudes you demonstrate aren't really compatible with public service.
Unfortunately he does work for WBC - which explains a lot!
Old Goat is making a mountain out of a mole-hill with regards to greenmeanie61's opening post.
This thread has become a great example why forums like this are no place for sensible debate as we were talking about in another thread.
People don't want to talk with "the authorities" as you put it in the other thread, they want a scapegoat to get personal with and take all their gripes out on as seems to have happened with the original poster who has taken some of his free time to answer questions about his job.
You have suggested those that are physically assaulted suffer such a fate because of "bad management" and now you seem to have launched into an attack on me and seem to be bickering with others. Everyone reading this can draw their own conclusions.
You should try to moderate your own sanctimonious approach. Your usual line is to make personal attacks right from the start as you did to me here. I find you impossibly rude and to be honest somewhat lacking in several areas. This is perhaps why you have also started to suggest these forums are a waste of time - for you, personally, yes they are. No, I'm not going to 'put you on ignore' because that's what I would expect someone cowardly and unable to defend their opinions properly and without resorting to personal insult to do. Sleep well.
This thread has become a great example why forums like this are no place for sensible debate as we were talking about in another thread.
No this is just a petty squabble. No one need reply, as would be the prerogative of any 'official' presence. I don't see it as a reasonable argument in this case. For example: greenmeanie61 has made his point and now it leaves us to have a row; one which is off topic anyway, but that is down to how well the forum is moderated.
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