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Greenham Common
August 16, 2010, 10:26am Report to Moderator

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I think it is a fair question.
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Archie
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Gross overdevelopment.

This man seems intent on redesigning the whole of Newbury. He also seems able to get anything past the planners at West Berks.

If it is allowed to go ahead, you will be the first person to complain about the extra traffic on the Sainsbury's Roundabout. Vehicle wise it will be the equivalent to building 190 houses between Boundary Road and Sainsbury's Supermarket.
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Greenham Common
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It would seem then that we're at a dead·lock.  Without the number of dwellings, developers aren't interested in doing anything with the area.  At this rate the tower will eventually qualify for listed status!  
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I'd far rather see a brown field site used for houssing than the loss of more green fields.

The counting house should be saved though.
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August 16, 2010, 3:24pm Report to Moderator
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What is wrong with the idea?


It doesn't appear to have wood cladding.
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If it is allowed to go ahead, you will be the first person to complain about the extra traffic on the Sainsbury's Roundabout. Vehicle wise it will be the equivalent to building 190 houses between Boundary Road and Sainsbury's Supermarket.


You have failed to notice that there is in the design a relief road running from SCATS, through the estate to a new junction at Boundary Road which means that traffic from Sainsbury's or the estate itself going east, doesn't need to traverse the A339. Kings Road becomes a dead end as traffic will now be going down through the estate to and from  SCATS, all the residents including those from the existing new estate off Kings Road will no longer need to go west and we will all benefit from this. A339 traffic will be reduced.
This through road is in line with the much revised WBC traffic plan for the area.
The building height could be reduced if the amount of potential building footprint didn't need to cater for a through road.
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August 16, 2010, 6:16pm Report to Moderator
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The counting house should be saved though.


Such an attractive building in pristine condition. I don't think so, it has nothing going for it at all, have you ever looked closely at it I wonder.

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Why not use the site for the Arts Centre? They could put all sorts of buildings, workshops, studios, installation areas, and galleries, along with food and retail outlets for local artisans  and craftsmen (and women) to display and sell their wares.

They've even got a bit of space for a sculpture park.

Greenham Common Trust is awash with money, so they could indeed do this, but do you reckon they will?


Threep.

They could even keep the Counting House, fill it full of 'Bygones', and turn it into a 'how we used to live' area to be visited by local schools etc...
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You have failed to notice that there is in the design a relief road running from SCATS, through the estate to a new junction at Boundary Road which means that traffic from Sainsbury's or the estate itself going east, doesn't need to traverse the A339. Kings Road becomes a dead end as traffic will now be going down through the estate to and from  SCATS, all the residents including those from the existing new estate off Kings Road will no longer need to go west and we will all benefit from this. A339 traffic will be reduced.
This through road is in line with the much revised WBC traffic plan for the area.
The building height could be reduced if the amount of potential building footprint didn't need to cater for a through road.


I think you have failed to notice that the new road is one-way, going west.  All it will do is add to the HGV traffic on the A339 as drivers use it to get out of the industrial area avoiding the clagged A4 junction. The only beneficiaries are the residents of the hundred yards or so of Kings Road that it will bypass. There was once a plan for a proper relief road from Scats to the racecourse station - sigh.


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I think you have failed to notice that the new road is one-way, going west.  All it will do is add to the HGV traffic on the A339 as drivers use it to get out of the industrial area avoiding the clagged A4 junction. The only beneficiaries are the residents of the hundred yards or so of Kings Road that it will bypass. There was once a plan for a proper relief road from Scats to the racecourse station - sigh.




The new road will as I understand it be a two way road continuing the existing 2 way part of Kings Road, round Hectors Way, through the new development and joining Hambridge Road at the junction with Boundary Road.


Kings Road is a one way street that carries significant traffic and
is congested a lot of the time, particularly during peak hours. The
redevelopment of the Sterling Cable site provides the opportunity to
secure the proposed Link Road from Hector’s Way to Kings Road which
will provide an important benefit for the area as a whole by providing a
high quality link replacing the narrow and poor quality western section
of King’s Road and by so doing reducing noise, fumes and disturbance
currently suffered by local residents.
The Link Road will also provide a higher quality alternative route to the
existing eastbound route along Mill Lane providing benefits to the wider
road network.
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dodgy
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And we all know what happens to twin towers don't we....Duck!
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August 17, 2010, 8:26am Report to Moderator
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Such an attractive building in pristine condition. I don't think so, it has nothing going for it at all, have you ever looked closely at it I wonder.



It could easily be restored into an humber of uses. Have you never seen 'Grand Designs'?
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August 17, 2010, 8:29am Report to Moderator
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Why not use the site for the Arts Centre? They could put all sorts of buildings, workshops, studios, installation areas, and galleries, along with food and retail outlets for local artisans  and craftsmen (and women) to display and sell their wares.

They've even got a bit of space for a sculpture park.

Greenham Common Trust is awash with money, so they could indeed do this, but do you reckon they will?


Threep.

They could even keep the Counting House, fill it full of 'Bygones', and turn it into a 'how we used to live' area to be visited by local schools etc...

  
Subsidise artists so that can stay in bed all day & knock out 'art' as & when it suits?
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Threepwood
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Subsidise artists so that can stay in bed all day & knock out 'art' as & when it suits?


Where did I say that then? (ignoring the mistake)

Recording studios would be rented, shop space would be rented, galleries would charge admission. What do Greenham Arts do at the moment? What will they do at the Ark in the Park?

Of course it wouldn't make as much money as the flats will, and that's why it won't get done.  After all, thats not what these people learned the handshake and bought the leather apron for is it?


Threep.
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