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brian
September 25, 2010, 9:31am Report to Moderator

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Vince Cable is hardly obscure, he's the current business Business Secretary for "our government". Surely you must have seen his comments from last week about greed?



Exactly, couldn't make it in the labour party so joined the lib dems but obviously retains his socialist viewpoint. Just the sort of guy we need in that position.
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Greenham Common
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I'd like to know what Vince Cable's speech and his opinions about the finance market, has got to do with an independent shop keeper in Newbury who has had to endure protracted road works in front of their shop, and a council who charge a subby for parking, seemingly ignoring the damage they might be doing to trade.

Vince Cable did not use the word 'greed' once in his speech.
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I'd like to know what Vince Cable's speech and his opinions about the finance market, has got to do with an independent shop keeper in Newbury who has had to endure protracted road works in front of their shop, and a council who charge a subby for parking, seemingly ignoring the damage they might be doing to trade.
We moved on to discuss the greed of business following the comments of Vince Cable (the Business Secretary) earlier this week.

This is generally how conversations often work moving from one topic to the next, I don't see why a chat board should be any different.
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We moved on to discuss the greed of business following the comments of Vince Cable (the Business Secretary) earlier this week.

This is generally how conversations often work moving from one topic to the next, I don't see why a chat board should be any different.

It was you that introduced the idea of greed and mentioned Vince Cable.  I think that your use of greed is misplaced in this instance and I also don't believe Vince Cable's comments are relevant; it dealt with a different aspect of business.  If there is any 'greed' here, it lies more with the council, as is their apparent insensitivity to the needs of the established independent businesses in town; in particular, the south end.
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User23 thinks all shopowners are greedy.  He has made many similar comments on this forum in the past.
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brian
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User23 thinks all shopowners are greedy.  He has made many similar comments on this forum in the past.


It's an excellent diversionary tactic which seems to work. It happens whenever the thread gets close to a criticism of WBC.
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PaulaM
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The could be a case for the Council to charge if the bays were pay-and-display and the Council were losing revenue. But they aint and they're not.

Can the local shopowners not claim business rate relief? The roadworks seem to have gone on forever. You gotta feel sorry for them. In fact, come to think about it, didn't the first lot of works start on the wrong week?


Threep.


Business Relief - Sadly not . . . . Roadworks - Yes it does seem like FOREVER ........ and don't feel sorry for us ..... SHOP WITH US  

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Greenham Common
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Stop being so greedy!    Stop wanting to earn living!   Start being a charity!  
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user23.3
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User23 thinks all shopowners are greedy.  He has made many similar comments on this forum in the past.
Of course I don't, I just think the statement "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" is greedy. What about her fellow shop owners, do they not get anything?

The criticism seems to be for the council charging the gas company two grand for using a parking pay they probably would have used anyway, probably getting just a 25 quid fine for doing so.

Now to me, that seems like good business sense and perhaps some could learn a few lessons and given no one has actually suggested how it could have been done better this seems to back up this view.
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Nobby
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Of course I don't, I just think the statement "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" is greedy. What about her fellow shop owners, do they not get anything?



Yes they've got a shite council who think feck all about their livelihoods !!!
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Of course I don't, I just think the statement "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" is greedy. What about her fellow shop owners, do they not get anything?

How can asking a question be greedy?  I don't see someone being compensated as being greedy either.

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How can asking a question be greedy?  I don't see someone being compensated as being greedy either.
There's being compensated, then there's asking for everything for oneself. "Are Newbury businesses to be compensated by the gas board" would be a fair question, "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" is basically giving two fingers to everyone else.

Is there camaraderie in Newbury business or is it everyone for themselves? From experience I've always thought it was the former, comments like the one in question make me think otherwise.
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There's being compensated, then there's asking for everything for oneself. "Are Newbury businesses to be compensated by the gas board" would be a fair question, "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" is basically giving two fingers to everyone else.

No it isn't.  That is your spin.

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Is there camaraderie in Newbury business or is it everyone for themselves? From experience I've always thought it was the former, comments like the one in question make me think otherwise.

Shop keepers know that they mutually benefot from other shops (of different merchendice) being busy.  PaulaM was making a point.  At no time have I read that she thinks she should be paid more than that which she has lost out.  Indeed; she went on to clarify her position, so your instance on misusing the word 'greedy' is wrong.
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Shop keepers know that they mutually benefot from other shops (of different merchendice) being busy.  PaulaM was making a point.  At no time have I read that she thinks she should be paid more than that which she has lost out.  Indeed; she went on to clarify her position, so your instance on misusing the word 'greedy' is wrong.
Shop keepers and business folk in general are in competition for the finite amount of trade in Newbury, they compete with each other even if they're not in the same field of business.

I'm confident however that these comments aren't indicative of business people in Newbury who generally help each other out, in my experience.
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PaulaM
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Shop keepers and business folk in general are in competition for the finite amount of trade in Newbury, they compete with each other even if they're not in the same field of business.

I'm confident however that these comments aren't indicative of business people in Newbury who generally help each other out, in my experience.


User (number whatever) is STILL banging on about my "greed" ..... so I am still going to bang on and ask the question "what motivates you ??" - a question he has failed to answer several times now ??? .... It would appear his sole purpose in life, at present, is to call me Greedy  

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