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PaulaM
September 22, 2010, 3:39pm Report to Moderator

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This is the same as the 'the loss of the Parkway parking spaces is killing the town' argument, which suggested the if people could not park within 200 yards of the shop they wanted to visit they'd go elsewhere.

It must be down to perception - If you go to Festival Place / Oracle you have to walk a fair distance to get to the first shop. And if you venture out of either Mall, you'll end up walking over a km. Why there is this idea that people won't do this in Newbury to visit either the S end of Bart Street or the Broadway I don't understand.
Sadly I don't understand either - guess we are all getting lazy - both ends of town appear to be miles away although in reality they are only a couple of minutes walk from the very centre.

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user23.3
September 22, 2010, 3:56pm Report to Moderator

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Go and compare the footfall at the top and bottom of town.  The proof is evident.
But there's just as much parking at the top with the Euro Car Park, the "Town Centre" Car Park (soon to become two), Pelican Lane, Bayer on Saturdays and so on.
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PaulaM
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But there's just as much parking at the top with the Euro Car Park, the "Town Centre" Car Park (soon to become two), Pelican Lane, Bayer on Saturdays and so on.
MMMMMmmm none of those mentioned are South Bartholomew Street are they ??

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Go and compare the footfall at the top and bottom of town.  The proof is evident.


Could that be because there is little to attract them there?

I bet if you attached a pedometer to a cross section of the shoppers in Newbury on an average shopping day you'd find the majority will have easily covered enough distance to walk from Blackboys Bridge to the Broadway and back - should they have wanted to.
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PaulaM
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Could that be because there is little to attract them there?

I bet if you attached a pedometer to a cross section of the shoppers in Newbury on an average shopping day you'd find the majority will have easily covered enough distance to walk from Blackboys Bridge to the Broadway and back - should they have wanted to.


Are you implying my shop is not attractive ? Have you been there ? Only yesterday a lady informed me "It was the best things that had happened in Newbury for a very long time " !
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PaulaM
September 22, 2010, 6:18pm Report to Moderator

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Completely sympathise with you Paula.  I usually call in at the bakery on my way to work to get my lunch and was dismayed on Monday to see the bay cordened off and unfortunately it is too far for me to walk to from work at lunch time.  This work has been a complete nightmare since it started for motorists and much worse for retailers....  I just hope it finishes soon for everyone's sake.

Thank you !
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I spoke to a traffic warden about this and was informed SGN paid £2K to West berkshire Council for the pleasure of using these parking bays ...


I wonder if they would allow you to rent the spaces for your exclusive use for £2k for over 2 months??
Possibly as they see cars as a means to raise revenue and pay for the idiots at Market St.


Incidentally I see SGN call it essential Gas Main work - so how frequently do they dig up the road when it isn't really necessary??

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Only yesterday a lady informed me "It was the best things that had happened in Newbury for a very long time " !

ahaa...  You're the kebab shop aren't you?....
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PaulaM
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ahaa...  You're the kebab shop aren't you?....

lol - which one ??
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MMMMMmmm none of those mentioned are South Bartholomew Street are they ??

No, I was just saying that footfall in the north of the town is supposed to be lower however I don't think this is due to parking for the reasons stated.

If enough people aren't enticed to your shop perhaps you shouldn't be blaming the Gas Board for digging up the road before you've exhausted some more plausible possibilities.
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ahaa...  You're the kebab shop aren't you?....
Which one though, are you a fan of Botan or Bodrum?
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PaulaM
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No, I was just saying that footfall in the north of the town is supposed to be lower however I don't think this is due to parking for the reasons stated.

If enough people aren't enticed to your shop perhaps you shouldn't be blaming the Gas Board for digging up the road before you've exhausted some more plausible possibilities.Which one though, are you a fan of Botan or Bodrum?


You are missing my point ....  more than enough people were enticed into my shop .... until two weeks ago when the gas board dug up the road directly outside. Actually I am not blaming the gas Board either if you read my earlier posts ..... what galls me is the gas board have had to pay WBC to occupy these parking bays . . . which leads me to my initial comment - will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account to make up for loss of trade ?? ......... this inturn will enable me to purchase a kebab from both shops !!
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September 22, 2010, 7:22pm Report to Moderator

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You are missing my point ....  more than enough people were enticed into my shop .... until two weeks ago when the gas board dug up the road directly outside. Actually I am not blaming the gas Board either if you read my earlier posts ..... what galls me is the gas board have had to pay WBC to occupy these parking bays . . . which leads me to my initial comment - will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account to make up for loss of trade ?? ......... this inturn will enable me to purchase a kebab from both shops !!
Are you even sure you weren't being wound up about the money, sounds like it to me.

No offence but "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" just sounds greedy to me, demanding compensation based on rumour.
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PaulaM
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Are you even sure you weren't being wound up about the money, sounds like it to me.

No offence but "will WBC be transferring the money directly into my bank account" just sounds greedy to me, demanding compensation based on rumour.


No! Direct from WBC Highways - plus when the roadworks over-run they will "penalise" SGN. I suggested it was a good money making scheme for the council but apparently it's not it's "an incentive to make them work quicker"!
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No! Direct from WBC Highways - plus when the roadworks over-run they will "penalise" SGN. I suggested it was a good money making scheme for the council but apparently it's not it's "an incentive to make them work quicker"!
You phoned them up and they told you that? Fair enough if that's the case.

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PaulaM
September 22, 2010, 8:23pm Report to Moderator

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You phoned them up and they told you that? Fair enough if that's the case.

To be fair, I wasn't convinced when the Traffic Warden told me  ... so yes I rang the council and it's true.

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