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brian
June 21, 2010, 4:22pm Report to Moderator

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I was a bit surprised when a 25 page beautifully printed booklet arrived through my door, delivered by the postie, titled 'Are You Ready ?'.
I thought we were in the middle of an austerity drive and catering for the numbnuts with a booklet that gives basic information which anyone with two or more brain cells would know anyway is to my mind a waste of ratepayers money. This condescending publication must have cost an arm and a leg to put together, print and distribute. The cartoon on the front cover says it all in my opinion. Evey supporter of the booklet is either a council or a group subsidised out of our rates.



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Obviously a list of organisations that can have their budgets slashed then!
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No doubt the issue if this was a perfomance target set by the last government - at least each organisation didn't set out and do their own.

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I was a bit surprised when a 25 page beautifully printed booklet arrived through my door, delivered by the postie, titled 'Are You Ready ?'.
I thought we were in the middle of an austerity drive and catering for the numbnuts with a booklet that gives basic information which anyone with two or more brain cells would know anyway is to my mind a waste of ratepayers money. This condescending publication must have cost an arm and a leg to put together, print and distribute. The cartoon on the front cover says it all in my opinion. Evey supporter of the booklet is either a council or a group subsidised out of our rates.
I imagine this saves money and lives in the long run. After all prevention is better than cure and for example a section on how to prevent fires is far cheaper than an appliance having to visit a house on fire, not to mention the potential loss of life if taken to the ultimate extreme.

Even during an austerity drive one should not sacrifice lives for money, do you not agree?
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June 21, 2010, 7:27pm Report to Moderator

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I expect most of them will have gone straight into the bin.
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brian
June 21, 2010, 8:16pm Report to Moderator

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I imagine this saves money and lives in the long run. After all prevention is better than cure and for example a section on how to prevent fires is far cheaper than an appliance having to visit a house on fire, not to mention the potential loss of life if taken to the ultimate extreme.


If there was a worthwhile section about fire safety  that was a little meaningful then I might agree, but a few obvious points  such as not plugging too many things into a socket will prevent nothing. The people who would do that sort of thing must have very little common sense.

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Even during an austerity drive one should not sacrifice lives for money, do you not agree?


No, I don't agree in this case, there is nothing in that booklet that will save anybody's life. If they don't have the common sense to know what to do then they are unlikely to read a booklet to find out.

Did you have anything to do with the production by the way.
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June 21, 2010, 8:52pm Report to Moderator

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No, I don't agree in this case, there is nothing in that booklet that will save anybody's life. If they don't have the common sense to know what to do then they are unlikely to read a booklet to find out.
Basically you've said some people are too stupid to read a booklet that might save their life so let's all save some money by not printing it.

Out of interest if this booklet wasn't printed and the cash was passed on to us all what would you spend your share of the money that would no doubt have saved a few lives on?
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Nobby
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Basically you've said some people are too stupid to read a booklet that might save their life so let's all save some money by not printing it.



Exactly those who are too stupid to know the basics - probably can't read! - and your point that it isn't a waste of money is...???
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brian
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Basically you've said some people are too stupid to read a booklet that might save their life so let's all save some money by not printing it.

Out of interest if this booklet wasn't printed and the cash was passed on to us all what would you spend your share of the money that would no doubt have saved a few lives on?


There's an old saying.......

Look after the pennies and the Pounds will look after themselves.

Certainly the cost of producing, printing and distributing one copy to, in our case, everyone in West Berks is not an insignificant amount of money.
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June 22, 2010, 4:28pm Report to Moderator

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There's an old saying.......

Look after the pennies and the Pounds will look after themselves.

Certainly the cost of producing, printing and distributing one copy to, in our case, everyone in West Berks is not an insignificant amount of money.
I think this highlights one of the problems with society today.

Valuing pennies over people and cash over community.


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I think this highlights one of the problems with society today.

Valuing pennies over people and cash over community.




It highlights that the public sector are happy too waste our money - perhaps the wage freeze will give them a reality check!
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brian
June 22, 2010, 5:38pm Report to Moderator

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I think this highlights one of the problems with society today.

Valuing pennies over people and cash over community.



You can't have it all ways I'm afraid. A booklet produced at great cost to the ratepayer..

or

Free parking at the Nature Centre.

The latter would appear to be a case of community over cash. Do I recall that somewhere I saw that you were a supporter of WBC charging for parking. Cash over community.
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June 22, 2010, 6:44pm Report to Moderator
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I think this highlights one of the problems with society today.

Valuing pennies over people and cash over community.


That is so true. Take this news story ....
HUNDREDS of doctors and thousands of nurses will lose their jobs over the next five years under secret cost-cutting plans.

The cuts to clinical staff, exposed in documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, undermine Labour’s election pledge to protect services.

Half of all hospitals that responded to the FoI requests said they were planning to cut the number of doctors and nurses. Two-thirds also said they would cut the number of hospital beds.

Ministers have always insisted that the planned efficiency savings could be achieved by cutting waste and bureaucracy alone.


Presumably we need to be ready to look after ourselves and not expect much help in an emergency
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That is so true. Take this news story ....
HUNDREDS of doctors and thousands of nurses will lose their jobs over the next five years under secret cost-cutting plans.

The cuts to clinical staff, exposed in documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, undermine Labour’s election pledge to protect services.

Half of all hospitals that responded to the FoI requests said they were planning to cut the number of doctors and nurses. Two-thirds also said they would cut the number of hospital beds.

Ministers have always insisted that the planned efficiency savings could be achieved by cutting waste and bureaucracy alone.


Presumably we need to be ready to look after ourselves and not expect much help in an emergency


This doesn't make sense as I understood that rightly or wrongly the NHS budget was ring fenced. One thing that strikes though is that the cuts will presumably be made by the bureaucrats. They're unlikely to cut themselves. (No pun intended)
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