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Archie
April 25, 2010, 8:54am Report to Moderator

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Went to the election hustings in Newbury last night.

Big decision for me now.

Do I vote for David Rendel to keep Benyon out?

Do I vote for Benyon to get rid of the Labour Government?

Or do I vote for Brian Burgess beacause I support almost everything he has to say about Newbury?

http://jimmillen.co.uk/2010/04/newbury-election-open-hustings/

The other candidates are non starters in my book.

What does everyone else think?
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April 26, 2010, 11:35am Report to Moderator
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BB is a non starter.
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jay
April 26, 2010, 1:56pm Report to Moderator

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How does BB (and you) feel on Trident; amnesty for 2M illegal immigrants; NI; pensions; nuclear power?  These are the things he will be voting on in central government.  Little about Newbury.
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April 26, 2010, 3:24pm Report to Moderator
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Exactly.
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BB is a non starter.


That's also exactly what they said about Dai Davis, Dr Richard Taylor and Martin Bell...




Threep.

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That's also exactly what they said about Dai Davis, Dr Richard Taylor and Martin Bell...




Threep.



I was waiting for this answer.....

Bell was a Labour candidate in everything but name. He was not re-elected in 2001. He was up against Hamilton & was the only other serious contender as both Labout & the LD oddly chose not to have candidates.

Taylor stood on a single election policy & is the closest comparison to BB. The LD did not field against him initially. When they did in the 2001 election,  his vote was rather reduced.

I no nothing of Welsh politics.


He is a non starter if he can't tell the elctorate his political affiliation or his voting intentions on national policy.
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Nobby
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He is a non starter if he can't tell the electorate his political affiliation or his voting intentions on national policy.


So you think Benyon and Rendall are serious contenders if they toe the party line and say f*** Newbury!! ??

I would prefer someone who puts what is good for Newbury high on their agenda!


What are your views on subjects such as Trident??  I think it is a waste of money - but unfortunately probably a necessary waste of money!!

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So you think Benyon and Rendall are serious contenders if they toe the party line and say f*** Newbury!! ??

I would prefer someone who puts what is good for Newbury high on their agenda!



Mr Rendall has been a WBC councillor since he lost his seat to Mr Benyon. Possibly to keep his hand in and his face in the papers until the next election, but he has been there.
Mr Benyon has pursued local items since his election as an MP but whichever of them is elected, they are elected to Westminster and have no hand in local politics. They are elected to represent their constituency in Parliament, not mess about with local trivia.
So, anybody who sets out his stall for votes in this election does not serve Newbury if elected as there is no machinery for them to do this. All they can do is lobby locally, you can do that.
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Nobby
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Mr Rendall has been a WBC councillor since he lost his seat to Mr Benyon. Possibly to keep his hand in and his face in the papers until the next election, but he has been there.
Mr Benyon has pursued local items since his election as an MP but whichever of them is elected, they are elected to Westminster and have no hand in local politics. They are elected to represent their constituency in Parliament, not mess about with local trivia.
So, anybody who sets out his stall for votes in this election does not serve Newbury if elected as there is no machinery for them to do this. All they can do is lobby locally, you can do that.


Are you saying neither of them has ever voted as dictated by their party whips??  I am sure they have !!

My comment was to highlight the duty of the MP is to represent their constituents AT ALL TIMES not their party!
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Are you saying neither of them has ever voted as dictated by their party whips??  I am sure they have !!

My comment was to highlight the duty of the MP is to represent their constituents AT ALL TIMES not their party!


Of course they have but it is a vote in Parliament not against Newbury directly. It may have a repercussion on rural life such as fox hunting but it is about national policy and law making, not about what WBC do or don't do even if they break the law. The MP may ask a question in the house as in the case of Mr Smith and his boiler scrappage but once again, not really a local issue even though Mr Smith lives locally.
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My comment was to highlight the duty of the MP is to represent their constituents AT ALL TIMES not their party!


It is a General Election - you are voting for the Party, not the candidate. If a Consituency votes in a candidate of a particular party it is fair to assume they want that party in power & that party's policies.
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Do I vote for David Rendel to keep Benyon out?

Do I vote for Benyon to get rid of the Labour Government?
The Lib Dems seem to be keeping their options open as far as who the get into bed with in the event of a Hung Parliament. The only thing Clegg has done is ruled out working with Brown, which is a smart move in my view as he'll be ousted as leader of the Labour Party anyway some time in May / June.
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It is a General Election - you are voting for the Party, not the candidate. If a Consituency votes in a candidate of a particular party it is fair to assume they want that party in power & that party's policies.
That's kind of true, but you're also voting for the candidate in the FPP system. I think this will be the last General Election held using this system though before we move to PR.
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It is a General Election - you are voting for the Party, not the candidate. If a Consituency votes in a candidate of a particular party it is fair to assume they want that party in power & that party's policies.


So why are Independents allowed?? - Unfortunately it is the fools who just vote for the party rather than a candidate to represent them who are responsible for the poor quality of MP's.

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What if you like the party, but don't like the candidate?  This would mean that you vote against the party you would like in power.  
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I would like to see an end to parties ideally - they detract from doing what the people want!

Each constituency represented by the person best suited for the job - and the best of those as a cabinet would really sort the country out!!

Anyway enough of fairyland and back to reality!
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So why are Independents allowed?? - Unfortunately it is the fools who just vote for the party rather than a candidate to represent them who are responsible for the poor quality of MP's.



Because if they were not we would not be living in a democracy. Most independents are going to be either left / right. So, like Martin Bell for instance, although they may not be standing as  the 'official' party candidate, they will have party affiliations.
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Because if they were not we would not be living in a democracy. Most independents are going to be either left / right. So, like Martin Bell for instance, although they may not be standing as  the 'official' party candidate, they will have party affiliations.


What were Martin Bells Party affiliations then???

Just because the vote with a party on certain issues doesn't mean they are affiliated to that party. It is not necessary to have parties for a democracy. People in politics just like to group with like minded individuals.

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What were Martin Bells Party affiliations then???

Just because the vote with a party on certain issues doesn't mean they are affiliated to that party. It is not necessary to have parties for a democracy. People in politics just like to group with like minded individuals.



Bell's campaign was organised by Alistair Campbell. Say no more.....
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