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Where is Winchcombe Road in Newbury?
This was the question being asked yesterday (Friday) as huge signs started to appear around the town advising of a lane closure for 2 weeks, starting on April 26th.
This refers to the A339 northbound between the Burger King Roundabout and the Sainsbury's Roundabout one lane is being closed for the installation of a new gas main.
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Winchcombe runs from Sainsbury Island to the railway bridge, where it turns into Greenham Road. Vague recollection of being told Kings Road and Kings Road West were joined. This would have been prior to Sainsburys and Halfords being built. Can recall a coal merchant in that area, but were there shops or houses on Winchcombe Road? |
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Yep, there was a small row of houses on that side of the road which lead up to the coal yard..
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And some of the houses contained small businesses. I remember visiting one of them many years ago. Can anyone remember the name of the pub on/near the bridge?
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And some of the houses contained small businesses. I remember visiting one of them many years ago. Can anyone remember the name of the pub on/near the bridge?
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The Railway?
The Railway Inn |
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Winchcombe runs from Sainsbury Island to the railway bridge, where it turns into Greenham Road. Vague recollection of being told Kings Road and Kings Road West were joined. This would have been prior to Sainsburys and Halfords being built. Can recall a coal merchant in that area, but were there shops or houses on Winchcombe Road?
Prior to the ring road, I have memories that Winchcombe Road used to join Cheap Street by the library. After the ring road was constructed this part of the road was renamed Carnegie Road. This left a section of road to the east of the ring road which was swallowed up in the Sainsbury's site in 1993. There was a coal yard on a spur from Winchcombe Road and also a builders merchants. |
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This street map shows the named road after the first section of the link was built but before the section going up the hill past St John's Road. The new railbridge was in place by this time. You can also see that Howard Rd was joined across to Greenham Road in front of the Blue Ball.
The photograph is taken looking south before the new bridge and link were built. On the left out of shot is the old Axe & Compass and across the other side of the bridge, the Railway hotel, Now Halfords. The shop just in view on the right still exists and is the fancy dress novelty shop now. It was a bakers then.
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The photo above was taken from outside the Sun pub. This picture looks north and the point of reference is the building on the left which is the Fancy dress shop again but in those days, a bakery and cake shop.
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This picture was taken in 1972. The buildings on the right hand side were the eastern side of the original Winchcombe Road. The old road itself still existed at this time, and formed a culdesac which ran parallel to the A339 (A34 in those days). The extension to the telephone exchange had not been built at this time. The old exchange is the flat roofed building just in front of the new building. Newbury had a manual exchange until 1975. It was one of the last towns in the UK to convert to STD (Subscriber Trunk Dialling) |
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The Railway Inn
At various times the Railway Hotel, the Railway Junction Hotel, or the Railway Tavern - but not the Railway Inn. |
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This picture shows the new railway bridge being built in 1964/5 during the construction of the ring road |
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Railway Hotel 1964 Railway Hotel 1984 |
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At various times the Railway Hotel, the Railway Junction Hotel, or the Railway Tavern - but not the Railway Inn.
Blimey! Looks like I'm wrong again........... Born in Newbury, lived in Newbury all my life, well not quite yet, and still don't know it. But I do remember the christian name of the grocer, just over Black Boys Bridge.. not tellin ya! |
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Anyone noticed the spelling mistake on the sign boards? |
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Anyone noticed the spelling mistake on the sign boards?
In the photos? |
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In the photos?
No! On the recently erected signs, they have missed the "b" out of Winchcombe. |
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A very illuminating thread. So they're going to close the A339 and fox us all by calling it an arcane name. Only in Cartergrad..... |
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Anyone noticed the spelling mistake on the sign boards?
Do you mean the Sun Ushers 'Licensed' as opposed to Licenced? but Chambers 21st Century Dictionary gives both spellings as alternatives. |
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A very illuminating thread. So they're going to close the A339 and fox us all by calling it an arcane name. Only in Cartergrad.....
Apart from it being work done for British Gas not "them", the road not being closed and it not being an arcane name you're spot on as usual.  |
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Here is another clip showing Winchcombe Road.
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No! On the recently erected signs, they have missed the "b" out of Winchcombe.
Ah, right! Not quite as amusing as "Multipex" though. Does anyone know if utilities companies have to seek permision from anyone before digging up a road, or can they just do stuff whenever or wherever? It seems a shame that they couldn't have scheduled this for the easter break, when the schools were off, hence less traffic. So I wonder if that's because they can choose when to do work, rather than having to seek permision from the council, or Highways agency or whoever. |
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Does anyone know if utilities companies have to seek permision from anyone before digging up a road, or can they just do stuff whenever or wherever? It seems a shame that they couldn't have scheduled this for the easter break, when the schools were off, hence less traffic. So I wonder if that's because they can choose when to do work, rather than having to seek permision from the council, or Highways agency or whoever.
If they could be forced to work only on 'convenient' days - such as the Easter break - then councils everywhere would try to get them to do everything at such times. So they would have to employ lots more people at those times (and only those times) as well as providing all the extra equipment needed to do all their jobs at the same times. |
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If they could be forced to work only on 'convenient' days - such as the Easter break - then councils everywhere would try to get them to do everything at such times. So they would have to employ lots more people at those times (and only those times) as well as providing all the extra equipment needed to do all their jobs at the same times.
'Convenience' isn't really the reason I asked. It's more to do with the logic in closing a lane of the main road through town for two weeks, when it could potentially have been done a couple of weeks before that when there would be less traffic on the roads. It makes little difference to me, as I'll be going home via the A34, but it has the potential to screw up the centre of town in the same way (or worse) than the cinema works did. Any chance to carry out the work when there would be fewer vehicles on the road would, to me at least, make a lot of sense. |
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Just for the record, my Garmin satnav knows where Winchcombe Road is - was surprised when it first started referring to it. |
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'Convenience' isn't really the reason I asked. It's more to do with the logic in closing a lane of the main road through town for two weeks, when it could potentially have been done a couple of weeks before that when there would be less traffic on the roads. It makes little difference to me, as I'll be going home via the A34, but it has the potential to screw up the centre of town in the same way (or worse) than the cinema works did. Any chance to carry out the work when there would be fewer vehicles on the road would, to me at least, make a lot of sense.
Sorry - I failed to get my point across - the people doing the work will be working somewhere, pretty much every day of the year. If they are working on a quiet traffic time in Newbury then they will be working at a busy traffic time elsewhere. If we try to get them only to work when the roads are less busy then we will need a lot more of them working for a few weeks a year (and lots more equipment). As Newbury doesn't really do busy traffic it could be argued that they should work here at busier times to allow them to dig up really busy roads at quieter times (giving us a taste of what traffic is like on a daily basis elsewhere - and was here pre-bypass). |
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Morlands brewery were hedging their bets, The Railway on the sign on the front and the south side, The Railway Hotel on the north elevation. |
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Looks like the old Malthouse to the left of the hotel (On tuther side of the railway line) |
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The photo below was taken from outside the Sun pub. This picture looks north and the point of reference is the building on the left which is the Fancy dress shop again but in those days, a bakery and cake shop.
The chap just out from the Sun seems to have mislaid his bike....It's behind you! |
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Here is another view of The Railway Hotel/Tavern/pub. This was taken on 23rd July 1958. The train is just arriving in Newbury from Didcot. (Photograph copyright the Kevin Robertson Collection) http://www.kevinrobertsonbooks.co.uk |
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Blimey! Looks like I'm wrong again...........
Born in Newbury, lived in Newbury all my life, well not quite yet, and still don't know it.
But I do remember the christian name of the grocer, just over Black Boys Bridge..
not tellin ya!
Are you talking about Elsie Kimber or the little shop Lilian Empson. |
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The chap just out from the Sun seems to have mislaid his bike....It's behind you!
I thought he was holding his head and saying "not that bl***dy cameraman again........... |
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