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| February 28, 2010, 12:51pm |
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Newbury Library to host long-awaited fantasy book launch http://www.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=19467What intrigues me is the following statement from the WBC website - Newbury Library was chosen by Pan Macmillan to host this event as the result of a successful bid by West Berkshire Council's Library Service.What bid? Are we actually paying the publisher for the right to advertise this book ? |
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| user23.3 |
| February 28, 2010, 4:09pm |
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Newbury Library to host long-awaited fantasy book launch http://www.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=19467What intrigues me is the following statement from the WBC website - Newbury Library was chosen by Pan Macmillan to host this event as the result of a successful bid by West Berkshire Council's Library Service.What bid? Are we actually paying the publisher for the right to advertise this book ?
Bids don't necessarily have to involve money England are bidding to host the World Cup in 2018 for example. |
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| blackdog |
| February 28, 2010, 4:14pm |
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Bids don't necessarily have to involve money
England are bidding to host the World Cup in 2018 for example.
England's bid for the World Cup will involve £100 million plus - far more than this book launch I hope! The difference being that the World Cup bid team will be hoping to make a profit on their outlay. |
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| Sue |
| February 28, 2010, 4:29pm |
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Bids don't necessarily have to involve money
England are bidding to host the World Cup in 2018 for example.
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| Nobby |
| February 28, 2010, 5:13pm |
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Bids don't necessarily have to involve money
England are bidding to host the World Cup in 2018 for example.
England's bid for the World Cup will involve £100 million plus - far more than this book launch I hope! The difference being that the World Cup bid team will be hoping to make a profit on their outlay.
WBC budgeting assumptions at its finest |
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| Sue |
| February 28, 2010, 5:15pm |
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WBC budgeting assumptions at its finest
I reckon as long as it's someone else's money (ours), WBC don't think it's real money. |
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| user23.3 |
| February 28, 2010, 5:21pm |
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England's bid for the World Cup will involve £100 million plus - far more than this book launch I hope! The difference being that the World Cup bid team will be hoping to make a profit on their outlay.
The winning bid isn't decided by who offers the most money. Sure the publicity machine around the bid has money spent on it but the actual decision is made solely on the strength of the bid, not who has spent the most. It's possible in theory for someone to spend nothing and beat someone who has spent millions. So you see, bids don't have to involve money. |
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| Nobby |
| February 28, 2010, 5:44pm |
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So User23 are you saying it was won because WBC are living in fantasy land?? |
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Without a very large amount of cash the World Cup bid will not be won - it might not be the only criteria but it sure as heel is one of them.
However, the subject was the bid made by the library to secure this book launch - did it involve payment of the publisher/author?
Or as I said in the first post -Are we actually paying the publisher for the right to advertise this book ? |
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We may not have bid money, and it may be the facilities offered, but I hope they did not use my hard earned money on over priced consultants to put the bid together. |
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| user23.3 |
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Have you thought about asking them? |
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Have you thought about asking them?
Sent an email, but no reply yet. |
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The winning bid isn't decided by who offers the most money.
Sure the publicity machine around the bid has money spent on it but the actual decision is made solely on the strength of the bid, not who has spent the most. It's possible in theory for someone to spend nothing and beat someone who has spent millions.
So you see, bids don't have to involve money.
'theory spending nothing' is absurd, there must always be some cost involved even if it only the cost of a letter or phone call, how else would the recipient be aware of the bid? shouting perhaps? bit awkward if they were a few miles away. The report used the term bid in the usual journalistic sense but I think the library personell-who presumably initiated it-should be congratulated on achieving the successful outcome. |
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'theory spending nothing' is absurd, there must always be some cost involved even if it only the cost of a letter or phone call, how else would the recipient be aware of the bid? shouting perhaps? bit awkward if they were a few miles away.
How much does an email cost? |
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How much does an email cost?
Ok then, the cost of the labour involved in sending it, no doubt meetings to discuss it and so it goes on. Probably pence, but nice hair split. |
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How much does an email cost?
Not much if the person sending it doesn't claim a salary. Have you any evidence of how much (or little) it cost or are you just trying to deflect the pressure from your employer as usual?? |
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How much does an email cost?
as an individual message very little but do not forget the Broadband subscription or 'phone line modem charge, hey, lets get surrreal, how about composing the bid -by purloined pencil not purchased-on the back of a re-used envelope (preferably one that has been used at least twice) then finding a native runner who would deliver it in a cleft stick, barefoot of course so no wearing out of shoe leather and not requiring refreshments on the journey. even so I bet there is an hidden cost in there somewhere. |
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as an individual message very little but do not forget the Broadband subscription or 'phone line modem charge,
hey, lets get surrreal, how about composing the bid -by purloined pencil not purchased-on the back of a re-used envelope (preferably one that has been used at least twice) then finding a native runner who would deliver it in a cleft stick, barefoot of course so no wearing out of shoe leather and not requiring refreshments on the journey. even so I bet there is an hidden cost in there somewhere.
Cleft sticks are not easily come by these days so there will of course be the problem of de-forestation. This involves hundreds of pseudo scientific persons being given huge salaries and international government grants to pontificate about the effect of greenhouse gases, the loss of conversion of CO2 to O2 and the effect on the wildlife. So, there you have it, that simple cleft stick cost a small fortune and thus the no-cost bid is negated. |
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