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We haven't had a Bollard picture recently...


No festive cheer for this Audi driver in Wharf Street this afternoon!
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Note the tailing back pointing towards Bear Lane.
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Note the road sign facing approaching vehicles which gives an order to drivers. From memory it says "No Entry to Motor Vehicles between 10am and 6pm except authorised vehicles" (or possibly taxis). I can't see anything like a taxi sign mounted on the car or anything else to suggest the vehicle is an authorised vehicle. Also given the time of year and lack of darkness, I would say there cannot be any doubt or atomic clock watching required to realise it isn't anywhere near 6pm.

Also note in the background a warning sign, again facing the approaching vehicles, saying "Caution rising bollards".

Although not visible in the photo, I believe there is another sign warning of the bollards just around the corner.

Not really sure what the traffic in the background has to do with a driver deliberately ignoring at least 2, legally placed, road signs.

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You can see all this from this picture?  Nah...all I can see is another efin great queue and a knackered car.
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You can see all this from this picture?  Nah...all I can see is another efin great queue and a knackered car.


I can see the end result of the actions of a very poor, inattentive and possibly therefore a dangerous driver, and 3 heading out of the wharf area. I see no proof of a queue, let alone an effin' que.
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I can see the end result of the actions of a very poor, inattentive and possibly therefore a dangerous driver, and 3 heading out of the wharf area. I see no proof of a queue, let alone an effin' que.

There's none so blind as those who will not see...I was in town and saw for my self...how about you?  Queuing at that corner will take some time to get to the roundabout BTW.
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Quoted from Greenham Common
Note the tailing back pointing towards Bear Lane.


Indeed. I wonder what prompted this guy to try and cut through town. Could it be that, given the long queue, he didn't want to wait to get out of the wharf like everyone else? Nah, I'm sure he was just an innocent driver unfamiliar with Newbury who will now refuse to come back to the town again.  

Another point to note here is that he has clearly driven into the bollards and the bollards have not, as some have suggested they do, risen up underneath his car.
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There's none so blind as those who will not see...I was in town and saw for my self...how about you?  Queuing at that corner will take some time to get to the roundabout BTW.


I know what traffic is like at that point that's why I was poking fun at a static picture and your statement that it was a huge effin' queue.

Equally you also know full well what the road signage is around there so
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is hypocritical perhaps?

There are none so blind who will not accept that there are some drivers whose lack of attention or deliberate lawbreaking leads to their own downfall and that other circumstances, whilst maybe contributary, are not the cause of the accident.
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I know what traffic is like at that point that's why I was poking fun at a static picture and your statement that it was a huge effin' queue.

I know you were poking fun, however, I was there and saw, what is your proof it wasn't?

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Equally you also know full well what the road signage is around there so

Yes and what has that got to do with the price of bread?  I never said anything to the contrary, or can you make that out from the picture as well?

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is hypocritical perhaps?

Again, why hypocritical?  Where did I say there wasn't good signage?

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There are none so blind who will not accept that there are some drivers whose lack of attention or deliberate lawbreaking leads to their own downfall and that other circumstances, whilst maybe contributary, are not the cause of the accident.

Very true...but the traffic was still sh*t round there, and that is all I said.

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Another point to note here is that he has clearly driven into the bollards and the bollards have not, as some have suggested they do, risen up underneath his car.


The bollards started rising and just clipped the plastic skirting on the front of the car, which is the visible damage that you can see from the picture.

The bollards are jammed so tightly into the engine compartment, that the car was still jammed on them at 5.00pm even though the incident happened just after 2.00pm. The bollards caused considerable to the engine compartment and spilt the entire contents of the sump onto the road.

There are a lot of people who suggest that it is an appropriate punishment and that they should read the signs. I wonder how many of those people have ever got confused in a strange town and driven the wrong way down a one way street?
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Whether it is the driver, the bollards, the signage, or whatever, it is hardly an ecologically friendly method of traffic management.

I understand that the bollards won't rise underneath a vehicle, so all one would have to do, if they wish to avoid damage is either don't go near them (the best method), or driver very close to the taxi so that the bollards detect a vehicle and won't start to rise (less desirable method).  
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Does anyone know if this driver was breathalyzed? Indeed, come to think of it.....have any of these bollardeers ever been breathalyzed?

It might also be of interest to note that due this drivers inattentive actions, anyone who was in some way infirm, or disabled, or suffering from restricted mobility and had ordered a taxi to pick them up in the market place (after a meal, or performance at the Corn Exchange) were unable to be met for nearly three hours.

If this driver refuses to come back and drive round Newbury again, thank f*** say I.


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There are a lot of people who suggest that it is an appropriate punishment and that they should read the signs. I wonder how many of those people have ever got confused in a strange town and driven the wrong way down a one way street?


it is the 'carry on regardless' attitude that makes it an appropriate punishment.  I'm sure these drivers do see the signs, but think nothing will actually happen.
A bit like the Mercedes driver who came down Northbrook Street on 22nd December at about 4pm. When challenged, by me, he said 'Have you seen the traffic?'
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Does anyone know if this driver was breathalyzed? Indeed, come to think of it.....have any of these bollardeers ever been breathalyzed?  It might also be of interest to note that due this drivers inattentive actions, anyone who was in some way infirm, or disabled, or suffering from restricted mobility and had ordered a taxi to pick them up in the market place (after a meal, or performance at the Corn Exchange) were unable to be met for nearly three hours.
  
As it seems there was no Bill in attendance, I doubt there was a breath test.  As for taxis, this would affect only taxis (and their customers) sat on the rank at the time.  I'd be surprised if the driver didn't know the bollards were there, so I would be surprised if this was down to inattention.

The only constructive thing I can say about this is, perhaps it would be wise to close the bridge between the same hours as the bollards are in operation.

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If this driver refuses to come back and drive round Newbury again, thank f*** say I.  Threep.

It is an Audi driver (the new BMW drivers), after all.
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We haven't had a Bollard picture recently...


No festive cheer for this Audi driver in Wharf Street this afternoon!


'' Um, calling base do you think i should slap a ticket on this Audi while i have a chance. Also there's a bloke doing a Haka dance in the road, shall i tell him to move on !! ''
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