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I don't think you understand what I meant by it or you wouldn't have posted a reply like that.
The trouble with you user you’ve got no sense of humour.
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I don't believe you unless have figures to prove it,
Because you don’t believe me doesn’t mean I am wrong. What I’ve quoted is from the sources I’ve said; they don’t always issue written proof... but that doesn’t mean I am wrong.
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however more crime is being reported or the statistics wouldn't have gone up.
True... but that doesn’t mean EVERY crime has been reported. As I’ve said; from experience, observing, reading and watching not every crime is/ was reported. |
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The trouble with you user you’ve got no sense of humour.
It wasn't funny. If you'd said I read the Guardian that might have raised a smile, but I don't reckon you'd know why.
Because you don’t believe me doesn’t mean I am wrong. What I’ve quoted is from the sources I’ve said; they don’t always issue written proof... but that doesn’t mean I am wrong
All I'm saying is show me some proof that less crime is being reported. |
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It wasn't funny. If you'd said I read the Guardian that might have raised a smile, but I don't reckon you'd know why.All I'm saying is show me some proof that less crime is being reported.
I'd like someone to define 'crime' and keep the definition constant, year after year. |
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I think there are plenty of people who wouldn't bother reporting crimes and if they do it's just to get a crime number so they can claim on insurance. I know of someone who had their bike stolen from their garden shed recently. The shed was locked so the hinges were removed from the door. It was reported. Then several days later the 'someone' passed a couple of blokes sat down Northcroft Lane way and they had the bike. I asked if he told the police and the the answer was no, there didn't seem to be any point. |
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All I'm saying is show me some proof that less crime is being reported.
You should know that, that isn't always possible; because of that, that doesn't mean I am wrong. Read FF's post; no doubt you'll say that doesn't prove anything. |
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At the risk of opening up a bigger can of worms, some should read this.... http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4545573.Cutting_crime_a_piece_of_cake/18 per cent cut in crime rate in 5 months.. Highest detection rate in the Thames Valley.... Burglary down 31 per cent... Theft from motor vehicles down by 17 per cent... Theft of a vehicle down by 41 per cent.... Criminal damage rates down by 22 per cent.... Assaults down by 26 per cent. It can be done.. Threep. |
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At the risk of opening up a bigger can of worms, some should read this.... http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4545573.Cutting_crime_a_piece_of_cake/18 per cent cut in crime rate in 5 months.. Highest detection rate in the Thames Valley.... Burglary down 31 per cent... Theft from motor vehicles down by 17 per cent... Theft of a vehicle down by 41 per cent.... Criminal damage rates down by 22 per cent.... Assaults down by 26 per cent. It can be done.. Threep.
That is from a local Oxford paper which says crime went down. However, the last three weeks the BBC has been showing a documentary on crime; this is crime in Oxford and according to Nick Ross – the presenter – the BBC’s did a survey which showed that people in Oxford and around Oxford have said that most crimes don't get reported. |
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I understand the reporting of low level crime, like anti social behaviour, is less likely to be reported. I'm not sure I trust any of the figures wholly, one needs an independent source that uses consistent statistical gathering methods over a long period of time to have any faith in them. What was true about Oxford, apparently, is violet crime is not as high on the list of problems as antisocial behaviour. |
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Looks like several crime categories are now higher in Newbury town centre than the Thames Valley average. http://crimestats.thamesvalley.police.uk/99 violent attacks in our town centre over three months. Sound like a safe town to you? |
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99 violent attacks in our town centre over three months. Sound like a safe town to you?
Never reported the last couple of incidents directed at me along Northbrook street. There is no point, it only opens you up to reprisals. Been spending most of my time in central London since start of the summer. Its much safer, not had a single incident or even bad word said to me in the whole time. Even the people are generally more polite and well spoken. |
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Matches my daughter's experience exactly! She started living in Central London some four years ago - only time her life style ever worried me. Then I took a closer look at the crime stats.... Frankly, TV Police ought not to realise Reading isn't the problem. |
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